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I've been interested in ATT, but the community is significantly smaller, and the community is a big part of the draw of TVT.

What disgusted me was what TVT said in response to ATT. There was a thread essentially claimed it was a weird XXX trope site that was ripping them off: nobody corrected this perception, and nobody even disagreed, despite the fact that looking at the FAQ for five minutes would have made it abundantly clear that this wasn't the case. The mods then said that ATT "didn't deserve any more attention or discussion" and pretty much outright said that mentioning it further was asking for a ban.

It says something about a community when they aren't mature enough to discuss their competitors and legitimately assess them, instead constructing strawmen and saying that anybody who talks about it will be banned: TVT, of all places, ought to know better.




I'm not familiar with this situation, but if what you're saying is true, I can see where the perception came from. The unfortunate reality is that the Internet is full of sites which just copy-paste an existing popular site (Stack Overflow, various fandom wikis, etc.) and slap a bunch of ads on it hoping to make some fly-by-night profit. If I had came across ATT, I absolutely would've assumed that's what it was and would not have taken the time to read their FAQ explaining otherwise.


I'm not sure how you would have gotten that impression with the 100% lack of ads. Aggressive adblockers, I can only hope. Either way, brand-name attraction is strong.

If you'd like to be a little more familiar with the situation, there's a write-up of the copyright situation here: http://blog.brentlaabs.com/2013/12/the-edge-of-creative-comm... with HN discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7749189 There's also the statement of why we forked: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/All_The_Tropes:Why_Fork_TV_Tro...


But they read enough to be sort of aware of the differences in philosophy, in that they knew that ATT allowed for content that had been taken off TVT for being too explicit. If you already know that, then you've taken some time to actually look at the site.




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