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Who cares? I'd rather have more rover and deep space missions and non-LEO manned missions than the propagandist wins of a floating bucket in LEO. Space stations aren't progress, they're just money wasters with a roadmap that leads literally to nowhere - being burned up in the atmosphere.

I never understood this mentality that when the US is between launchers everyone suddenly has a renewed appreciation for last-gen achievements. We did the LEO psce bucket with the ISS. It leads to nowhere and had questionable space science utility. Its not a stepping stone to anywhere[1]. We're building the SLS and investing in SpaceX, Blue Origin, ATK, Sierra, and ULA to get out of LEO and to have a variety of spacecraft on tap. Nations still stuck in LEO with 60+ old launch systems are going to be left behind and they shouldn't be applauded for it.

A few years of downtime will be forgotten the same way we've forgotten the time between Apollo and the STS. Meanwhile, anti-US biased people will dance during this peroid and project questionable attitudes like the US not being interested in space (No one comes close NASA's achievements, missions, and budget) or how the US is declining because a pig like Soyuz can still fly to LEO.

[1] by the time the ISS was built we had enough know-how to do things like permanent moon bases and other achievements that were within our technical grasp but not within our political one. Its very easy to vote for splitting the bill on a space station with a bunch of other countries. Its a whole other thing to propose risky things like moonbases and to have them funded by Congress. Thankfully with the SLS and SpaceX we're back to doing risky things.



This year, China will have their maiden flight for 2 new rockets CZ-5, CZ-7. Launched a new space station: Tiangong2, is making steady progress in their space program.

Russia is developing Angara-5, a new rocket that made its debut in 2014. Russia upgraded in 2016 its soyuz capsule and is working on a new design crewed vehicle.

Europe started developing its Ariane 6 next gen-launcher, following the success of its current Ariane 5.

Europe also landed on a comet earlier this year.

I am less versed in Japan launch schedules, but they also have a strong program.

During this time, US is developing reusable launchers that land on their launchpad.

Space is a global effort and every country is participating in this exploration. Each has strengths and weakness. For instance, USA can land rockets but cannot send crew in space.

There is no more a 'me versus them' situation in space development. Everyone works somewhat together. Russia sends US astronauts in orbit. US refuels the ISS with Cigna cargo. Antares engines are Russian RD-181. The service of the orion capsule is made in France and Germany. The Chinese spacecraft is derived from Russian Soyuz.



>There is no more a 'me versus them' situation in space development.

There absolutely is and frankly its the only thing that's ever worked - competition. Before it was between nation states and now it will be between corporations, which is going to be much more efficient. We are entering a new age of space travel here where nation states take a backseat to big centrally planned government programs, at least in the US.


16 years of continuous human presence in space is the biggest achievement of the ISS program, along with a lot of knowledge on long duration manned missions. A manned Mars mission would be a complete venture into the unknown if it weren't for the space medicine research done at the ISS.

Losing the ISS will be a step backwards for space exploration.


How are the effects of long duration spaceflight on humans to be studied without some sort of space presence?


While I agree with most of the points you're making you certainly could have presented them in a nicer way.


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The guidelines ask us not to complain about downvotes in the first place, but to introduce an absolutely baseless accusation of racism is beyond the pale. Please do not do this.


Race? Really?


What else? Why would a rationally stated opinion get so many down votes?


Probably more to do with (unnecessarily) starting with "Who cares?" rather than race, which wasn't even mentioned.


Do you have a magic ability to see the race of a HN user on will?




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