The only line from your post that even begins to reference the Holocaust is "Roma do not (except, perhaps, with Germany, but you'll note that they behave the same way everywhere... even in Romania!)". In my book, that's glossing over.
> Are you claiming that they're sociologically comparable to Black Americans?
No, African Americans are a pretty different case.
> I have to wonder what your point is.
> Surely you aren't claiming that this justifies their all-but-systematic prostituting of their women, exploitation of their children, larceny, fraud and violence...
I just wanted to correct what I thought was a gross oversight of your writing, which doesn't mention the long history of persecution of Roma that continues into this century. That's important context if you want to talk about Roma culture.
> Black Americans are by-and-large law-abiding, hard-working
I agree, but I'm curious what you mean when you say "by-and-large". You used the same phrase to say that the Roma have an issue with criminality. What do you mean, formally, by "by-and-large"? When you say "People X are by-and-large Y" do you mean that more than 50% of X are Y? Do you mean being X is positively correlated with being Y? Do you control for other factors, such as Z?
I'd just like to see a little more pedantry in this thread, a few more firm statistics.
The only line from your post that even begins to reference the Holocaust is "Roma do not (except, perhaps, with Germany, but you'll note that they behave the same way everywhere... even in Romania!)". In my book, that's glossing over.
> Are you claiming that they're sociologically comparable to Black Americans?
No, African Americans are a pretty different case.
> I have to wonder what your point is.
> Surely you aren't claiming that this justifies their all-but-systematic prostituting of their women, exploitation of their children, larceny, fraud and violence...
I just wanted to correct what I thought was a gross oversight of your writing, which doesn't mention the long history of persecution of Roma that continues into this century. That's important context if you want to talk about Roma culture.
> Black Americans are by-and-large law-abiding, hard-working
I agree, but I'm curious what you mean when you say "by-and-large". You used the same phrase to say that the Roma have an issue with criminality. What do you mean, formally, by "by-and-large"? When you say "People X are by-and-large Y" do you mean that more than 50% of X are Y? Do you mean being X is positively correlated with being Y? Do you control for other factors, such as Z?
I'd just like to see a little more pedantry in this thread, a few more firm statistics.