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Flattr, aren't this those guys who ask for a greedy 10% share. If Adblock and Flattr will work together there will be less to nothing left for publishers.



Yes, this terrible awful rate is completely out of the norm for the industry. For example, on AdSense, publishers get 68%-51% share! [0] Oh wait, 10% is the cut that Flattr takes, of which 90% is kept by publishers. Note, included in that 10% is the macro transaction fees paid to integrate with other payment providers.

[0]: https://support.google.com/adsense/answer/180195?hl=en


You are comparing apples with oranges.


90% is a pretty good deal. I started down the path of doing something like flattr not too long before they came on the scene and I figured 5-15% would be a pretty fair amount to take because you have to pay a content provider and a potential group of middle men. You also have to cover transaction fees aside from just your own internal costs.


If I fill my flattr account I have to pay any transaction charges. Flattr payouts are via bank account where the charges are neglectable. Then there is only those mysterious "potential group of middle men" left who would get their share. Who are those middle men? And if 10% is ok, why does everybody say that paypal with 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction is expensive?


That's a pretty standard CC fee which would be part of any flattr-like service as well. Somebody has to pay it. That's also why my ideal number was as low as 5%. If you have 3% or so coming out for the financial system you are then aggregating all of the stats to keep tabs on how is getting what at a very small transaction level. There is a lot of data to keep for the monthly roll-up. 2% would be a ridiculously cheap amount to take. Flattr is only keeping about 7% now, but their reporting is much simpler since they are not transacting on every impression and also because very few sites are using flattr.


Flattr doesn't have to pay any CC charges, maybe some bank transfer charges. And the mysterious middle mens are vanished?

The only reason why flattr has to take such a big share is that they do not have enough users. But with such greedy charges, which are even more expensive than paypal for a lot of cases they will never get enough users.


Reminds me of Valve's attempt to monetize the Steam Workshop last year. They claimed it was to put money in the hands of the modders, but the modders only got 25% of the money and they had to earn $100 (after Valve's cut) to ever see a dime.




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