Challenging Ke Jie is way too small a goal for DeepMind at this point.
I wonder if even the idea from the AGA stream today, to get all the best pros in the world together and challenge AlphaGo as a team, is enough.
Perhaps releasing the core AlphaGo as open source (to the extent it's not dependent on internal Google machinery), or at least publishing its trained model, may be the next step. Let people "challenge themselves" however they want.
EDIT: Also, Lee Sedol had his time in the sun, but commiserations to Ke Jie. He's just 19, already number #1 in the world, his whole career in front of him... and this happens.
I wonder if even the idea from the AGA stream today, to get all the best pros in the world together and challenge AlphaGo as a team, is enough.
Has this been tried? That is, have Players 2-9 (or some subset) ever competed as a group against a dominant Player 1? Unless it's been tested, I wouldn't take it for granted that a group would beat an individual.
> He later said, "It is the greatest game in the history of chess. The sheer number of ideas, the complexity, and the contribution it has made to chess make it the most important game ever played."
There Go Seigen, the genius who brought about the Go revolution that Redmond talked about at post-game conf today, was beaten by Honinbou Shusai + his students.
Also, "lesser" pros routinely call out mistakes in master games (and the masters agree). Games are often decided by easily avoidable mistakes, even at the highest level.
Too many chiefs in a village. Can you imagine trying to explain why this move is correct because "20 moves in the future" it proves to be right. It would probably take an hour per move.
Also I mentioned in a previous post...the human style of playing go needs to adapt to AlphaGo. That's why the commentators say "oh that was odd" since a human would not make that move as its unorthodox, but turns out to be right.
If the top 1-10 had a chance to play AlphaGo privately for months they may have a better chance.
It works somewhat well in con-go.net, even if I disagree with a lot of the move ordering as of late. But I am on the white team and we're winning, so I guess the black team made more mistakes.
Not really 1 vs 2-9, but a billionaire named Andy Beal liked to go to Vegas and play poker pros in really high stakes (to get them out of their comfort zone). It was him vs "The Corporation".
People don't watch games because the players are the best in the world.
I'm an avid tennis fan. If we build a humanoid that can run faster, hit harder, hit more accurately and never gets tiredI would say...good job...Now get out and put the humans on the court.
We enjoy relating to the players, see how far they push their boundaries, see them make mistakes, recover from mistakes...
And on that note, hopefully there will not be cheating scandals like in chess where players have an ear piece and someone in the back communicates what move to place based on computer output.
I really hope they bother with one more match at least. It was a pity human vs computer idea basically died in chess after very unconvincing win by Deep Blue (even though it lost 2 previous matches). Humans had at least a few years more of good resistance back then.
I can think of a worthy goal for AlphaGo: make a program which can play better than top pros which runs on a macbook pro.
Closer to their goal: Make a generalized AlphaGo program that runs on a computer no heavier than 3.3 lbs and uses less than 20 watts of power. Macbook pro is currently 30 watts and 4.5 lbs. So, that's pretty close. But the parent company, Google DeepMind, doesn't have go playing as their ultimate goal.
I wonder if even the idea from the AGA stream today, to get all the best pros in the world together and challenge AlphaGo as a team, is enough.
Perhaps releasing the core AlphaGo as open source (to the extent it's not dependent on internal Google machinery), or at least publishing its trained model, may be the next step. Let people "challenge themselves" however they want.
EDIT: Also, Lee Sedol had his time in the sun, but commiserations to Ke Jie. He's just 19, already number #1 in the world, his whole career in front of him... and this happens.