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Toyota Prius software glitch forces global recall (computerworlduk.com)
13 points by monkeygrinder on Feb 9, 2010 | hide | past | favorite | 8 comments



"With myself taking the lead and keeping to the genchi genbutsu principle all of us at Toyota will tackle the issue in close cooperation with our dealers and our suppliers."

If I were translating his statement I might have put an explanatory note there: genchi genbutsu is a reference to the actual location and the actual materials at issue. It is sort of a catch phrase for Toyota -- one of their management principles is "genchi genbutsu genzitsu" -- roughly speaking, "Go to the actual location and see the actual machine/materials and you shall know the actual truth." Compare to delegating an underling to diagnose the issue over a phone.

Obligatory disclaimer: I work in Nagoya, but not for Toyota, to the extent that anyone in Nagoya can be said not to work for Toyota.


Speaking to the need for software to be open source in more than academia?


I'm not against the idea of such software being open source, but I don't think it's a guarantee of quality by any stretch. I've seen and used (or tried to use) some hideously kludgy open source software.


Until cars have connectors to automatically upgrade their software without requiring a vendor to do it, having the code to the software wouldn't help.

Still, would be pretty sweet to be able to mod the firmware to suit each driver's tendencies.

Side Question: Doesn't BWM allow\encourage tinkering with the firmware on their cars?


Who has the liability when some one breaks in and puts bad code on the car that causes it to misbehave? The code could maybe cause it to not properly brake and cause a death or it could maybe alter the timings on the injectors and cause it to be less efficient or maybe even ware out more quickly.

There has to be a certain allure to having a wifi chip in there and when you pull in to your garage at night, the car could install any updates to the ECU, the navi and any other systems that could need them, maybe sync against your itunes.. At the same time, it could send in some information about how it's performing, what maintenance has been done, etc.. It could almost be a profitable feature.


>There has to be a certain allure to having a wifi chip in there

Until some war-driving script-kiddie shows up and causes a buffer overflow in the driver and gets root on your car. :)


You must be thinking of a different BMW. The BMW I know of uses Bosch Motronic ECUs are encrypted.


I guess Woz was right.




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