On: Omnisharp – Tools and extensions to work with C# in any editor

[ponyous]

I used Omnisharp + vim for Unity3D development and it was working surprisingly well. I would highly suggest you use it for C# development if you are not happy or cannot use IDEs such as MonoDevelop or VS.

[ddevault → ponyous]

I use C# all the time on Linux, mostly on MonoDevelop. But when I'm not using C#, I use vim, so I have tried Omnisharp+vim several times hoping to rid myself of MonoDevelop. Unfortunately, the performance of vim tanks when I have OmniSharp installed, even when I'm not editing C#. Hoping that NeoVim's improvements to asynchronous plugins helps this.

[MichaelGG → ddevault]

What about Evil in Emacs? I've heard/seen great things about this model versus using vim. (But haven't gotten around to it yet.)

[nosami → MichaelGG]

omnisharp-vim author here. I switched to emacs around 18 months ago for exactly the reasons described here.

For the last few months, I don't write C# any more, but still use emacs for F# development.

[Locke1689 → ddevault]

I work on Roslyn and would love to use Vim for all my editing but you're right -- the UI-blocking extension model Vim has just does not work.

I also have high hopes for NeoVim.

[ponyous → Locke1689]

I am using NeoVim instead of Vim. It is working well, but I unfortunately cannot remember if OmniSharp worked through non UI blocking extension api.

There is plugin called deoplete[1] that is doing asynchronous code completion. It shouldn't be too hard to connect it with OmniSharp.

[1]: https://github.com/Shougo/deoplete.nvim

[Munksgaard → ponyous]

I've been wanting to get rid of VS ever since I started coding in C#, but I haven't yet figured out a nice way to build, test, and run my applications in Emacs. How did you handle that sort of stuff in vim?

[dasboth → Munksgaard]

Out of interest, what in your opinion was so bad about VS that you wanted to get rid of it?

[Munksgaard → dasboth]

First of all I should probably say that I'm quite new in the .Net world, and that many of my issues with VS could probably be alleviated. I just don't know how.

Mostly I think it's just about preference. I like my editor lean [insert joke about emacs being bloated here], visually non-distracting and customizable. I also try to avoid using my mouse. Emacs is all of these things for me, VS is not.

[TheEzEzz → Munksgaard]

VS can definitely be configured to be lean. My setup is dark, almost no chrome, and is fully keyboard driven. It can take a bit of work though. VS isn't my main editor, but I enjoy it when I use it, after a few years of wrestling with settings!

[dasboth → TheEzEzz]

I agree, recent versions are preety customisable. I hardly use the mouse and I didn't have to do much to make VS comfortable to use.

[wdmeldon → dasboth]

For me, it's bloat. VS is slow as molasses and has a thousand features I don't need nor want. I also miss the multiselect feature from Sublime.

[jongalloway2 → wdmeldon]

If you want multiselect in Visual Studio, it's available via several extensions:

https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/2beb9705-b568... http://www.hanselman.com/blog/SimultaneousEditingForVisualSt... https://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/f301cf82-e80b...

[alkonaut → wdmeldon]

I think I'd rather go for VS.code then, than try to bend Emacs or Sublime into doing C#.

[bsuh → alkonaut]

For what it's worth, VS.code uses omnisharp-roslyn for its C# integration. So you can get a very similar experience from editors which have omnisharp-roslyn support.

[moonchrome → bsuh]

But VS code has project support and debugging integration AFAIK.

That's the kind of things that really set IDE vs editor in terms of usability.

[dasboth → wdmeldon]

Interesting, apart from longish compile times on big projects I've never had speed issues. Installing Resharper, useful as it is, made it crawl so I abandonded it, but I feel productive in VS on its own.

[JupiterMoon → Munksgaard]

Would makefiles not cut it for your needs?

[Munksgaard → JupiterMoon]

Probably, I just don't know enough about MSBuild to write any yet.

[forrestthewoods → ponyous]

Last plugin I tried in Sublime for Unity work decently well, but not well enough. It would show available functions but it would not show documentation in tooltips. So I ended up going back to Visual Studio. Does this show "extended" tooltip information?

[ponyous → forrestthewoods]

What do you mean by extended? It doesn't as far as I remember. I haven't used it for a ~1 month now so I am not really sure.

[mstade → ponyous]

Out of interest – on Windows? If not, would you share any details of how you test Windows deployments of your games?

[ponyous → mstade]

No, OSx. I don't have any interesting details... Usually I test it out on a dedicated machine I have next to my development one. I haven't released a game yet.