On: Flutter – Cross-platform mobile framework from Google

[Rapidwire]

And those "few better solutions" would be?

[pjmlp → Rapidwire]

- XAML

- XUL

- Layout managers like Motif, Swing, Tk, ...

I never had with them half the problems I do have making HTML/CSS work properly across browsers.

[Nitramp → pjmlp]

Swing didn't have baseline alignment until Java 1.5 iirc, so you couldn't put a label next to a text box without it looking dorky. And the controls felt slightly uncanny on every platform.

No thanks, wouldn't buy again.

[pjmlp → Nitramp]

Swing is great if one bothers to learn how to use it, instead of relying on the default control behaviours.

What I mean by that, was being aware information like "Filthy Rich Clients" blog, http://filthyrichclients.org/

I have been out of the CSS loop in the last three years.

Can we finally center vertically without lots of tricks in a good way across browsers?

I am not a designer and never managed to control layout in HTML/CSS, as easily as, I do in all the native toolkits I have used thus far.

[zghst → pjmlp]

...well you wouldn't have those problems with XML tags/HTML being used in an app with a framework that uses a custom layout system.

[pjmlp → zghst]

But that isn't the W3C way anymore.

True, the XHTML + XML modules would have brought us there, but another path was chosen.