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An air-cooled engine willing to run at much hotter temperatures doesn't need, cannot use, a big drag-creating radiator at the front of the car.

But once you put the engine in the back, there are all manner of advantages. You can get rid of the driveshaft (weight) lower the hood (visibility) and be more creative with shape (aero). For Porsche it was all about reducing drag. The original even had covered wheels.

http://buildraceparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Porsche...



> An air-cooled engine willing to run at much hotter temperatures...

Are they "willing to run at a higher temperature?" I feel you're begging the question, but I'd be delighted to be shown I'm wrong. The engine has cooling requirements, and they're met by careful ducting and a fan that the engine runs directly, or indirectly.

VW Beetles and early buses ran a fan off a generator or alternator via a belt from the engine, and VW type 3 and 4 engines (and at least later, if not all air-cooled Porsche 911s, (and 912s?)) are run off the engine crank. The engine needs to be cooled, needs airflow (ask a knowledgeable BMW airhead motorcycle owner). So, "why not put then engine up front" could be answered with "we've contained all cooling requirements in the engine itself, so we put it where we want."

As I read more about this there are lots of interesting considerations[0]

but I don't see "willing to run at a higher temperature" as a consideration, yet.

[0] "Internal combustion engine cooling" on @Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine_coo...

Edit: s/chilling/cooling/


If you want to get all definitional, then one might say the porsche/VW were also liquid-cooled. They had oil which did move some heat around. So the line is really whether or not the engine has a separate cooling loop, usually filled with water.

There are a couple different temperatures to speak of. There is the overall engine temp, which may well be very similar to a modern engine. But there is also the temperature of the cylinder walls deep inside. An air-cooled engine relies on metal to conduct heat away from the heart of the engine. A water-cooled engine puts a pipe of cold water right alongside the cylinders to physically move heat away. So the internals of an air-cooled engine go through a much wider temperature range during normal operation. With differential metals that means gaps... gaps between the cylinder wall and the piston. That in turn means increased wear and emission-related problems. An air-cooled engine is willing to suffer these issues for the advantage of decreased weight and complexity. An air-cooled engine not willing to suffer this internal heating would be a very slow and heavy engine.

Having a hotter cylinder wall can also impact choice of fuels (need higher octane) and compression ratios (need less) as the hot walls might ignite things before the spark.


But there is a radiator at the front of most air-cooled Porsches; although it cools oil instead of water.

See: http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/911_carrera_oil_coo...


  In 1969 on the 911S, a front mounted radiator-style cooler 
  was mounted as standard equipment in the front right fender 
  well. In 1973, the newer trombone, serpentine, loop or 
  cooling pipe cooler as it was called, replaced the radiator 
  style cooler. This style of oil cooler was used through 1983.
Ha! What the hell!? The 911 never actually was a purely air-cooled car, like the Beetle?

And now that I check wikipedia, I learn that the Beetle also had an oil cooler! My god, I've been living a lie.


All 'air cooled' engines are 'oil cooled' technically, including the Beetle.

The 911 has two oil coolers (well, from the mid '70s, anyway) - one in the right front fender, and one mounted to the engine itself.


Except for those engines that don't use oil. (Think toy airplanes.) And oil coolers are also found in some water-cooled engines. My old bike (2000 Honda VFR800) used both water and oil-filled radiators.


Toy airplanes do use oil, it's just mixed in with the fuel.

Many water-cooled cars do have an oil cooler, but it's not the primary means of cooling the engine. In those cases it's more about keeping the oil at a constant temperature.

Oil cooled cars have sump capacities 2x water cooled cars.


Good thing you checked Wikipedia :) I was just about to point out that VW Beetle motors had a smallish oil cooler in (or near) the fan shroud at the front of the engine.




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