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Yes couldn't agree more with that.

Also dates in numeric order I.e. yyyy/mm/dd you know like all the other numbers we deal with not dd/mm/yyyy or the crazy mm/dd/yy.



Use minus instead of slash and you have ISO 8601: yyyy-mm-dd


I had - I think - independently come up with this format for naming log files, and I was so very, very happy when I found out it is an ISO standard.

A little disappointed, too, because every single time I have a great idea like this, I find out that somebody else had it before me. But still.


Sold.


8601 also gives you proper week numbering (which Europeans tend to like) + weeks start on Monday, after the weekend.


Well it's all the weekend. Saturday is the last end of the week and Sunday is the front end of the week.


In the US perhaps, not in Europe


In the UK too traditionally, although that’s changing (by convention).


Yet, in America, people say things like "do you have plans for the weekend?" Or, "What did you do last weekend?"

Nobody ever says, "Do you have plans for the upcoming two days which, respectively, constitute the end of this week and the start of the next one?"

So, Americans and Brits are inconsistent. They have "the weekend" which is a block of two days when salaried people with regular working hours don't work; and they have Sunday as not the week end, but rather the beginning; or the "front end" of the next week. Which means that the two days cannot be the weekend; they are two different ends of two different weeks.

> that's changing (by convention)

It's changing because people have to confront the above reasoning and realize that a week beginning in the middle of something that they have been calling "the weekend" for decades is silly.


Neither does anybody say "What are you doing for the holidays constituted of Christmas Day and selected other days around it?"


Christmas has 3 days.


In some countries the weekend isn't Saturday and Sunday though. So the start of the week is kind of arbitrary.


Saudi Arabia used to have it's weekend on Thursday & Friday. Recently they've switched to Friday & Saturday.


I believe in my entire life I've encountered exactly one situation in which the day that is defined as the first day of the week actually made a difference to anything: my kids' swim school schedule, where Week N of the term runs from Sunday through to the following Saturday inclusive.

Since the working week (and the school week) here starts on Monday regardless of whether Sunday or Monday is regarded as the first day of the week, it seems to have always been a distinction without a difference to me.


Yes. Putting the year first and with 4 digits is the only safe way because, afaik, nobody anywhere uses yyyy/dd/mm. It's nice that it's also in order of significance but the main advantage is unambiguousness.

You'd think people would have learnt from Y2K but somehow we still see 2-digit years which make dates like 03/04/05 impossible to even guess at. It's slightly better since 2012 where a 2-digit year can't also be a month, but we'll have to wait till 2032 for 2-digit years to unambiguously mean year.

This is an area where I believe localization makes things worse, not better. If every website showed dates with the year first, people would easily understand, regardless of whatever silly local convention they have. As it is, whenever I see a ##/##/## date, I have to think about what the website might be trying to do (do they know what country I'm from? What country I'm in now? Are they using their own local convention?) and what possible dates it might mean. "I think that happened around August, so 08/10/14 is probably not the 8th of October." Localized dates just make no sense at all on the internet.




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