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Hyves in NL had the 'circles' thing before Facebook even existed, let alone before Google went public with G+.


And the Russians dreamed of going to the moon but that's the rub with consumer products - the market has to accept them for it to be an accomplishment. Google thought they'd found the magic recipe and pitched it as something for everyone that was a huge breakthrough. Being first with features or flows doesn't matter at all. The only thing that matters is making it relevant to users' lives, which all parties failed at. Circles is a bad model for a mass market.


Hyves had big acceptance in NL at some point it was one of the largest websites here, Facebook ate their lunch.




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