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This is absurd. How could you judge view to science by just a fiction? Do you consider star wars as a mature view to science?



Star Wars was not vetted by any government officials for its ideological purity before publication, is the difference. Anything that is published in China, by definition is representative of the opinions of the Party.


It doesn't work that way.

For example, from http://gking.harvard.edu/publications/how-Censorship-China-A...

"Contrary to previous understandings, posts with negative, even vitriolic, criticism of the state, its leaders, and its policies are not more likely to be censored. Instead, we show that the censorship program is aimed at curtailing collective action by silencing comments that represent, reinforce, or spur social mobilization, regardless of content."


In the last month, off the top of my head:

* Mass arrests of human rights attorneys and dissidents: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/world/asia/china-arrests-h...

* Online political dissent shut down: http://www.afr.com/technology/social-media/how-china-stopped...


No one is saying that there is no censorship or repression, but rather it works differently than most people think it does. Though I will concede that the paper is quite a few years out of date.

The point I was trying to make is that, a sweeping statement such as "Anything that is published in China, by definition is representative of the opinions of the Party.", simply isn't true.

It is not even true for the mainstream media, nevermind a work of fiction.


Looks to me like you've never been active on Weibo or spent much time in China. You'd have to be an idiot to publish media critical of the state at any scale.


No I haven't, but if you have the data to show otherwise, then by all means write it up.


Do you seriously expect the PRC to publish pristine data on on arrests or executions related to anti-state speech or activities?


No, but there is also a wide spectrum of opinion/speech available in China between anti-state and pro-state.

The point I am trying to make is that people think China is a smidgen way from North Korea, when the actual difference is night and day.


Is this statement parody?

If not, then you are incredibly ignorant about China.


The latter, I guess. We read stories in the press all the time about authors and "dissidents" being locked up, censorship of the Internet, etc etc. Are you saying none of that is true?


>We read stories in the press all the time about authors and "dissidents" being locked up, censorship of the Internet, etc etc. Are you saying none of that is true?

It is true, though not to the extremes I think you believe. I would guess that you're getting downvoted because you go from that to "Anything that is published in China, by definition is representative of the opinions of the Party." which is just patently not true (there is plenty of criticism of the CCP in both official published mediums - print, media, etc. - and even more so on blogs, weibo, etc.)

Lastly, your statement can also be applied to many western countries...




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