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There are plenty; anecdotally, I run into them more than not.


So censorship is okay as long as it's politically aligned with the powers that be? I'm not a nazi, but that seems dangerous...


Neo-nazis are domestic terrorists and should be treated as such.


According to you, not the government, or we wouldn’t have this conversation.

There are people that believe the BLM movement are also domestic terrorist, see how dangerous is to try to classify every one you don’t like as such?


The operator of the Daily Stormer, Andrew Anglin, is currently a fugitive. He lost a lawsuit regarding harassment he organized on the site and went into hiding instead of paying what the government ordered him to.


>The operator of the Daily Stormer, Andrew Anglin, is currently a fugitive

Is there a warrant out for his arrest? "Owing money but not paying it and/or avoiding the debt collectors" isn't exactly being a fugitive, otherwise many of americans defaulting on their debt would also be "fugitives".



People who believe they should be treated equally and people who literally believe in a master race and genocide are not equivalent, and anyone trying to make an equivalence is either intellectually dishonest, or agrees with the Nazis.

"Some people think" is not an argument. Much of life is gray, this is not one of those times.


They dont need to be equivalent, they just need to be treated the same. What do you think will happen once "your side"/"the correct side" gets removed from power and replaced by the unguided reaction it created?

Thanks to all this stupid nazi fearmongering and virtue signaling i am currently faced with a far right party possibly wining my next election as a reaction. With the government having gained unprecedented powers to quell and control dissenting opinions.


And how should you be treated? Arent you just a totalitarian yourself if you are gullible enough to think targeted censorship is a good idea?

Genuinely asking, from where i stand your simplistic view on reality is one of the most dangerous currents out there right now.


Suppressing people whose goal is to suppress is neither dangerous, nor hypocritical.

It’s not “because they’re not politically aligned with me”. It is that they desire the genociding and enslavement of entire groups of people.

You painting me being against that as “just a disagreement” is bordering on sympathizing, if not just outright sympathizing with weasel words.


So enforce it.


This seems like an assertion based on incomplete evidence. Not saying you're indelibly wrong, but presuming there is such a thing, one would think it's infallible, and thus you're not going to accidentally slip into paradise before your allotted time.


Most ideas about life after death are based on the assumption that because we have consciousness, it can't just "stop existing" as a true nothingness. Ask someone to picture that, and they picture a black void that they still experience.

So it seems sensible to me that General Aneasthesia would feel quite unique in that regard (I have experience it myself) - one moment you're here, the next you're waking up. You don't dream, you don't feel like time has passed at all, it's just kind of a blink and then you're somewhere else.

And that's it - "true nothingness". It's the closest you can get to not existing while still being able to come back.


I think a good way to imagine non-existence it is to ask people to think about how they feel about the time before they were born. It's better than that idea of a black void that some get, and it tends to better illustrate the concept that the world once existed without you experiencing it, and so there is nothing weird about it existing again without you experiencing it in any way.


I think this is a cheat.

If instead we found someone who (for whatever reason) believed that they just popped into existence, as if from a puff of smoke, at the age of 3... and we did your thought exercise but instead told them "think back to the 3 years before you manifested"...

To that person, it might well seem like a clever idea. "Hey I didn't exist then, but I don't really experience or remember that nothingness!"

Except they did exist, may well have been conversational even for the last part of it, etc.

There's no good way from first principles for me to be sure the same isn't true of myself before my birth. I don't expect much after my death, but like everyone else I'm just going to have to wait and see (or, wait and not see, as the case may be).


Oh, I'm not claiming I've solved the mystery of what happens after death!

I'm just saying this may be a good way to help someone visualize better what it even means to say that consciousness just stops, not that it somehow proves that is what happens.


I wonder if going under anesthesia is different though due to the time involved. Like, if you're under for 4 hours, you'll feel like no time has passed. But what about 4 days? Or 4 months?

If death is infinite, to really compare death and anesthesia, we'd need to experience being under for longer.


I had surgery last year and I believe I was out for a few hours. when I woke up I could definitely sense that some amount of time had had passed. I haven't felt that sensation during quicker surgeries so maybe our perception of how quickly time passes is changed and slowed down?


Perhaps our consciousness existed in some spiritual way, but no memories got translated to our biology.


You ever walk into a room and forget why you walked in?

I think changes in perspective break memory.

Greater changes mean greater breakage.

Walking into another room is a change. sleeping, dying, Weird drugs. Those are also changes.

Also, there is a degree of breakability/flexibility, inherent to the person. Depending on various stuff.

And there are ways to become more flexible too. Less prone to breaking. This leads to phenomena like "lucid dreaming".


Good.


A difference in philosophy is not cause for immediate therapy. Most therapists are glorified echo chambers and only adept at at 'fixing' the more popular ills. For 200 bucks an hour.


Difference in philosophy is not "the world can't end fast enough and nothing matters."


Finally something agreeable.


I think contemporary AIs would be more alarmed by accidentally dropping the n word and/or something entirely antithetical to the current zeitgeist and then be neutered. ChatGPT is hilarious if you ask it the right questions in the number of hoops it will jump through in order to not say something 'unkosher'.


Are the CIA agents in the room with us?

If so send me an offer, frankly it'd be an improvement.


Thank you very much, this was exactly what I was looking for.

Just In vaguest terms, if you could go over your own route, with no personal details, obviously, I would be appreciative.

What barriers existed, what would you prepare for differently, etc.


I made an account to also reply to this. My first hacker news comment, here we go.

These are all good points, and I want to add another good niche.

The government research labs need people. The pay is not as good as the private sector, but the desire to work on meaningful projects is aplenty. Batelle is the big one, with smaller labs. It's a complicated bureaucracy, but as a researcher, support staff for projects, or scientist, you don't have to go that route. All the mentioned paths can be hard to start in except the military straight up, but you mentioned other problems with that option.

Government labs have projects with clearances and without, and by working for one you can start to build a path to getting a clearance. If you have experience as a SWE you should be able to find a job at one of the many labs all over the country.

To clarify, They are mostly DOE. https://nationallabs.org/our-labs/

https://www.usa.gov/federal-agencies/national-laboratories

I've heard kf SWEs, engineers, and data scientists who started there. Also companies that are government contractors can be a path to breaking into the field like Oracle, IBM, AT&T, and traditional defense MIC companies like Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, Northrup Grumman, etc.


I failed in getting into USDS which I attribute to lack of experience (US Digital Corps solved this) so I ended up in a standard private-sector SWE job. Got some exposure to electoral politics and did a tech policy "bootcamp" but realized both weren't for me, at least at the time.

During COVID, I decided I wanted to leave the startup world and move into the security field which caused me to revisit the idea of working in government. Decided to join the military as a "cyber" guy to obtain a TS (closest thing in the US to guaranteed full employment) and get access to TRICARE. Landed on commissioning as an Army Reserve Officer. It took several months to get my application together (admittedly, I took my time), 6 months of waiting to go to training (probably COVID related), 6 months of initial training, and 10 months of job specialization training. People might encourage you to direct commission, but it's extremely competitive and I didn't want to wait around only to get denied.

Honestly, the biggest barrier is the lack of transparency into the bureaucracy. It's hard to tell who the "point person" is or how you should actually go about doing something. I was lucky to find someone who helped walk me through the process.

The biggest learning was that you shouldn't lie, but telling the full truth will fuck you over.

I do wish I had joined the military earlier. I was always interested in it but told myself it wasn't compatible with my day job. It's definitely a young person's game and everything you do is based on how long you've been in, so the earlier you can start that clock, the better off you'll be.

I would encourage you to think really, really deeply about what is important to you. Easier said than done, I know. You say you don't care about money. Is that really true? Some people think they don't care about money, but then they have a kid or three while look at their friends who do half the work but make 5x, and change their minds. Do you have an idea of where you want to live? Because most military bases and government research facilities are in small towns with few activities for young people. Do you think you can handle the crushing inanity of the federal bureaucracy? Are you okay with going months, or even years, without shipping a project? Just be sure because I know several of people who spent more time getting hired into a federal job than they did at the job itself.

If you have more specific questions, I can answer them directly.


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