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On track? Jolla has a track record of shipping late (or not at all in an unfortunate case). So if they kept their promises this time I would be more than surprised. Still, I do hope and wish them that they can ship at some point in time without any major disaster.

(Typed on SailfishOS)


Using a Sailfish phone comes from the desire not to use Google or Apple. So wanting to pay using those companies seems an odd requirement. Luckily for paying there are still widely accepted alternatives.

I wouldn't say it is a requirement. The thing is, if you want to use bank apps in NL, they all quit with native NFC. It is either Google Pay or Apple Pay >:(

I still use Sailfish daily. I have no problem with the UI, but their Firefox is seriously outdated and predictive text for the keyboard is no longer available.

Interesting: Despite its name Armbian seems to support RISC-V.

Disclaimer: I have never used any RISC-V board.


My HN account has no email. Not sure whether it would still be possible for a new account.

Not following Switzerland, so I don't know whether this was part of the discussion: Most cards in Europe, Apple and Google are American. With Trump treating Europe like an enemy, it's stupid to use any of those. This year I have returned to use 90% cash after having no wallet since 2021.

Most cards in Europe also support American systems for international trade, but you don't need this to trade domestically.

Most cards in Europe use Visa

In Germany it made it even to the general news https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/openai-manager...

So it wouldn't even be worth a HN submission. Well, I think it can still go under exception for exceptional news.


It says the code signing cert has been revoked by now.

How does verification work? Only at installation time or will it prevent running the installed files later if installation happened when the cert was still accepted?

Linux user asking out of curiousity...


Of course there is no mandate to offer anything for free. They just need to be offered for the same price as other methods.

But most people have a bank account for a fixed price and some even for free. So individual transfers are considered free, even if the correct term would be "already paid".


Fair enough, been so long since we had paid transfers here, I forgot it used to be a thing.


Money transfers between bank accounts for no extra fees (well, that's limited to the Euro, so a couple of countries chose to stay outside). Mobile phone usage for no extra fees all over EU (some limitations, but typically not relevant for the average trip).

B2B the integration has even bigger impact.

I don't think eletric plugs are even regulated. British plugs never changed and they were not an argument in Brexit.


All of those things don't require having a supranational body who you relinquish large parts of your sovereignty to.


Which is why bank to bank transfers are so easy in the US.


I wouldn't say that transfers are easy in the EU.

My bank requires me to fill in a paper form, scan it, send it by mail, wait a week, then get an answer (often, "no, give us more details") if I want to send money in another country. Neobanks tried to solve this for lower amounts, but will freeze easily your account for "AML" if you send low six figures.


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