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...Unless you are targeting your custom audience (past buyers/users) etc.

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wellboy 14 days ago | link

But isn't it that no matter who you target and where, the click farms always steal the clicks?

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sanswork 14 days ago | link

Only if they have accounts inside those verticals. The more specific you are the less likely this is to be the case.

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wellboy 13 days ago | link

But aren't the click farms in every verticla, in every location?

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sanswork 13 days ago | link

No, there isn't any need for that. There will of course be some spread but it isn't intentional or planned. They don't need a solid distribution of verticals and locations for what they offer to clients since they don't need to see their clients ads just click like on their pages.

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The fact that the quote is pulled from a site named "disinformation" aside, I find it hard to believe that anyone worth reading would make claims as to why those two groups' workforce participation (?) rates declined in such certain terms.

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underdown 203 days ago | link | parent | on: Tarsnap logo contest

I have used tarsnap for a while now and id be willing to bet this hacker news post will get him more business than a well designed logo. Have you seen the site? It looks like ass. Didnt stop me from trying it great service btw.

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is it possible their cpc went down because they've overwhored themselves and not the other way around? I seem to recall a shit ton of changes to SERPs preceding and during the periods mentioned.

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ChuckMcM 273 days ago | link

Absolutely, but Google runs experiments all the time. If underwhoring would boost their CPC then those experiments will surface that fact. That it hasn't suggested to me that alternatives have cut into their margins. Since nobody likes to cede margin, they can either ride it into the ground (a common response) or change. Either way it will be different.

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A company that has a better business model, better customer service, or better goods/services is not the issue here. The issue is a competitor can tank your rankings by dropping $100 on crappy links. The disavow process is a good step forward but negative seo can still destroy several months worth of revenue while waiting for Google to sort it out.

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google now accepts a micro data format for logos - although I haven't really noticed them in SERPS yet http://www.hobo-web.co.uk/how-to-put-your-company-logo-on-go...

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technically google shows both a cache of your pages and a visual representation of your site directly on google.com without explicit permission.

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signed0 354 days ago | link

Which is actually where PadMapper was getting their data from.

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eru 354 days ago | link

It is implicit though, since robots.txt is a well known standard.

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the link up top is a malformed url - looks like maybe a bad c&p

http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multip...

worked for me

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martin_ 366 days ago | link

Wrong - it may look like a bad c&p, but if you go to fbi.gov and check the link on the right hand side, it is, in fact correct. The servers are just struggling right now with the assets, now mine are cached it loads instantly.

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underdown 366 days ago | link

ya - guess you're right - what a redundant url.

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blaines 366 days ago | link

Yep your link (kind of) worked. It's not loading quickly or entirely.

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it would be nice if google gave us a decent tool to check domains before we bought them. Currently they hide most (>90%) of back links.

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a5seo 374 days ago | link

That would be an incredible gift to spammers. Just keep spamming until you see your domain health go from green to yellow. Then you can calibrate just how much you can get away with.

It's a nice idea, but will just make the spam problem worse.

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underdown 374 days ago | link

it's usually pretty obvious to spammers when they get penalized. their traffic drops and if they use webmaster tools (admittedly ill-advised and unlikely) they get an explicit message telling them they've been caught.

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FreeKill 374 days ago | link

Yeah, perhaps something like a domain report card highlighting any problems their system has currently flagged for it and linking to solutions. Would be useful even on domains you've owned for a long time, just to help determine if there are any concerns.

For example, when Google first started the Panda updates, I read that some sites were being targetted via paid link buys NOT purchased by the actual owner. Would be nice if there was a tool that let the owner find out that was what was happening to his site.

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kvanderd 374 days ago | link

The Penguin update targeted spam links not Panda (the Panda update penalized thin/spun/lame content). It is confusing...they clearly don't support color diversity :).... In webmaster tools you can report incoming links that are spam. Google has along way to go. Doing a backlink analysis before a domain purchase is time consuming and most people don't know how to do it.

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FreeKill 374 days ago | link

Haha, thanks for the heads up. I knew it was one of the P animals :)

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What? Linksys routers are a great deal - you can find them at goodwill for $5, flash the firmware & configure it in 15 minutes and they work great. My one beef is why don't they put a cheap fan on them when they cost upwards of $100 now that they come with a cisco logo slapped on them.

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