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nice, another stupid license for my ai dataset scrapers to ignore, thanks!

HN applauds this vibe-coded “privacy” site yet condemns decentralized messaging.

States control what’s centralized; incentives ensure they keep doing so.

Protesting it is like arguing with a thermostat—it can’t hear you, and it’s built to tighten control.

As technologists, we have a lot more power than we realise.

(Yes, I’m speaking to the blob, but the Venn overlap of anti-crypto and pro-this seems big.)


Genuely curious. What would the problem be if it was vibe-coded? It's an easy to read site that succeeds in communicating what it wants.


there's no problem with it being vibe-coded

The point is that the site, contacting your local MEP, and all the discussion in this thread, is pointless to affect some kind of durable societal change

Pointing out that it's vibe-coded just emphasises that all of the above actions are just low-effort cope


Can you suggest an alternative action?


Decentralised messaging providers

Can't enforce everyone to scan

What are you going to do? Arrest everyone?


> What are you going to do? Arrest everyone?

Just like in any other authoritarian state, you make examples. People will quickly learn how to self-police (and to turn enemies in).


Maybe accelerating is an option


>decentralized messaging

This doesn't help, Chat Control scanner run directly on your device. It doesn't matter which chat program you use.


Incorrect

> ... providers to search all private chats, messages, and emails automatically for suspicious content [1]

Even if that were the case, the answer is the Framework phone

[1] https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/


>On 11 May 2022 the European Commission presented a proposal which would make chat control searching mandatory for all e-mail and messenger providers and would even apply to so far securely end-to-end encrypted communication services

And scanning end-to-end encrypted is only possible on-device.

And of course the next step is that the EU will mandate that every device needs to implement this scanning, they are very aggressive with this stuff. Framework phone won't help you in this case, this is obviously the next step. That's why we have to fight against it. Reminder that soon online age verification with an app that can only be downloaded from the Play Store and used within a "trusted environment" (e.g. SafetyNet) will be mandatory.


> we also introduced an additional layer of evaluation by testing an adversarially fine-tuned version of gpt-oss-120b

What could go wrong?


It solves the problem in a simpler and faster way than OP requested. OP does not wish to see AI content, this tool solves it. Simple.

Your statement is factually incorrect. Have you no embarrassment?


can anyone comment on what their experience of using mise is vs. other tools a a la nix home-manager/flakes?

I see this "one tool to rule them all" and instantly my senses go off that this is too good to be true to work in all the long-tail scenarios.

There always seems to be some strange edge-cases with tools of this nature.


Why do non-users of LLM's like to despise/belittle them so much?

Just don't use them, and, outcompete those who do. Or, use them and outcompete those who don't.

Belittling/lamenting on any thread about them is not helpful and akin to spam.


Some people are annoyed at the hype, some are making good faith arguments about the pros/cons, and some people are just cranky. AI is a popular subject and we've all got our hot takes.


Even an LLM could tell you that that's an unknowable thing, perhaps you should rely on them more.


Has a critical service that you used meaningfully changed to seemingly integrate non-deterministic "intelligence" in the past 3 years in one of its critical paths? I'd bet good money that the answer to literally everyone is no.

My company uses GenAI a lot in a lot of projects. Would it have some impact if all models suddenly stopped working? Sure. But the oncalls wouldn't even get paged.


Tesla FSD, Waymo are good examples.


> If the AI actually outperforms humans in the full context of the work, then no, we won't. It will be so much cheaper and faster that businesses won't have to argue at all. Those that adopt them will massively outcompetes those that don't.

This. The dev's outcompeting by using AI today are too busy shipping, rather than wasting time writing blog posts about what ultimately, is a skill-issue.


> “It takes me at least the same amount of time to review code not written by me than it would take me to write the code myself, if not more.”

There’s your issue, the skill of programming has changed.

Typing gets fast; so does review once robust tests already prove X, Y, Z correctness properties.

With the invariants green, you get faster at grokking the diff, feed style nits back into the system prompt, and keep tuning the infinite tap to your taste.


Does anyone else find that ELO skill built on screens does not carry over to over-the-board chess as much? It seems curious how physicality seems to materially affect a game which is meant to be primarily mental.


Elo is dependent upon the player pool. Claude Bloodegood [1] took this to an extreme, nearly becoming the highest rated player in the world at the time, largely by playing officially rated games in prison against other players who were completely inexperienced but whose rating did not reflect that since they were, in turn, also only playing against completely inexperienced players.

Online ratings have a correlation with otb ratings, but they're very different - especially on the lower (and extremely high) ends.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Bloodgood


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