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Seems to me that a small portion of the funds being used to fight voter ID could help such citizens get IDs.

Given how often ID is required outside of voting, it seems to me like this would be a big win for people, if getting an ID is so hard for some.


There are such efforts. It’s still a bandaid on the systemic problems.

Red teaming, yes. But also, what other signals of fraud are we able to detect? What measures of validity (or signals that sending was attempted) are there? How are they distinguishable from honest voter errors?

It's going to be difficult with our current policies because we've erred on the side of making it as easy as possible for everyone to vote. We don't have a complete whitelist of citizens, it's against the law to require proof of citizenship to register to vote (unless that changed recently) and address verification in most jurisdictions isn't done more than the first time unless it's challenged.

To be clear, though, I don't think non-citizens are voting en-masse. My concern is that if you aren't even verifying they're citizens, you probably aren't really verifying that they are a real and unique person that isn't already registered.

Honestly I think if we actually wanted secure elections, we'd start with the red teaming and go from there. The signal to noise ratio of fraud is too meaningless to resolve without tightening up rules, which the results of the red teaming would give you the political capital to do.


I've only ever seen one time it was tried. The experiment was wildly successful: https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/01/voter-fraud-weve-got-...

Looks like those were in states that don't require ANY ID to vote, which I find ridiculous, so I guess we agree. I live in VA, we require ID, so the problem shown in NY shouldn't be possible.

And again, you still have to be willing to commit a felony to move the needly by ONE vote, which is not likely to be very common. The risk/reward simply isn't there.


> All their engineers would emigrate abroad if that were the case and they wouldn't be making domestic CPUs and AI accelerators.

Maybe, though nationalism may play a role here, especially if they believe themselves to be the underdogs. Not everybody only optimizes for money.


>Not everybody only optimizes for money

Yeah but it's bad faith argument to say they work for peanuts. This is western colonial mindset to assume China's success is due to poverty wages. You can't build a semiconductor industry on that.


https://x.com/PalmerLuckey/status/2027500334999081294

It is an interesting point. What's the difference between this use license and others?


If the government thinks the terms of Anthropic are unacceptable, they can just stop using them, right? But why would you then retaliate and ban other companies from making business with Anthropic if they want to be a defense contractor? How do these requirements make Anthropic a supply chain risk that makes them unusable for use by other companies?


> If the government thinks the terms of Anthropic are unacceptable, they can just stop using them, right

That is what they are doing.

> why would you then [....] ban other companies from making business with Anthropic if they want to be a defense contractor

Because, if it shops with Anthropic code, the DoD becomes subject to the restrictions when they receive the contractor's product. Anthropic's limitation is on the use, not (just) on the product or distribution.

To stop using them requires making the suppliers still using them as well.


> Because, if it shops with Anthropic code, the DoD becomes subject to the restrictions when they receive the contractor's product. Anthropic's limitation is on the use, not (just) on the product or distribution.

How does that work? If the contractor uses Anthropic to make some slides and write a report, the DoD can’t use the contractors stuff however they want?


That's just wrong. At most it requires the DoD to require that contractors do not use it on the work for the DoD.


It's perfectly reasonable for the US government to end the contract if they no longer like the terms they agreed to (assuming the contract does in fact let them); it's not reasonable to destroy the counterparty to the contract in retaliation. The line "I am altering the deal; pray I don't alter it further" is literally spoken by Darth Vader, the most comic-book of comic-book villains.


Then the government should end their contract with Anthropic. The terms of the contract were clear.

Designating them a supply chain risk is unprecedented authoritarian strong-arming.


This is nice rhetoric but ignores the fact that the elected officials are bought out by other billionaires. The US is an oligarchy in a republics clothing.


Also that they are unlikely to get a fair shake unless they say what folks here want to hear.


Well, what we don't want to hear is "I'm just doing my job"


HN in a nutshell



One advantage of AI-generated copy is it generally doesn't make mistakes like this.

The only mistake I've noticed, besides inexplicably lapsing into Chinese mid-sentence, is parallel construction errors, like "This product is fast, lightweight, and won't break the bank!"


> parallel construction errors, like "This product is fast, lightweight, and won't break the bank!"

I'm failing to see the error. That seems like perfectly sound, vernacular English.


The first two of the three are adjectives, each connected to the subject by the one "is," and the third is a verb phrase not using the "is." Ideally they'd be all adjectives using the "is," or all phrases supplying their own verbs.

Not the worst error in the world, but it stands out in LLM text that is otherwise remarkably nit-free.


But is it even an error? You are parsing it as a single list, but it could just as well be parsed as "subj ((is {a,b}) and vp-predicate)".

I guess you could argue that the first list needs an "and"? That's fair I suppose.


(We have descended into one of the deeper circles of grammar hell. I will remind you that you're free to leave at any time.)

Yes, exactly. English grammar actually doesn't require the "and" to end a list (leaving it out is called "asyndeton" if you're curious). A good example is Lincoln's Gettysburg Address: "... and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

So after all this, there actually is a way to analyze the example that is strictly valid. But most people would look askance at the standalone sentence "This product is fast, lightweight." That is, I suppose, unless someone like Abraham Lincoln worked it into his next speech.


Well, if we're going by what "most people would accept" we should probably allow:

* This product is fast/lightweight.

* This product is fast. Lightweight.

But yeah, this way lies madness. Unless we passed somewhere it in the dark back there.



Man In The Middle. They're saying that the US is intercepting the traffic.


What do you think cloudflare is? This is just them coming out with it now.


Also MITM? The comment you are replying to in no way implies that this is the only MITM.


Since they masquerade as example.com with an https certificate that your browser will trust: yes.


It is much more convenient to catch the fish that eats particular sort of worms putting such worm on a hook than finding the right fish among many others in a fishnet.


I am not claiming the OP ist right or wrong.

I am merely explaining what MITM is and what the OP meant.


Cheating on tax credits also comes to mind


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