Yes those articles are correct, but do you think that's what most people would think when they read it? Most likely the articles on suspicion for murder are ranked top in the search results while the articles about being cleared are hard to find. Many people tend to be judgemental, or at least err on the side of caution. In this case, potential employers could feel "where there is smoke, there is fire" and would rather close the "suspicion for murder" news article tab immediately and decide not hire this person, rather than searching further.
Let me give you a real world example. You know that meme about plastic surgery, "The only thing you’ll ever have to worry about is how to tell the kids"? The woman in that meme in fact did not have plastic surgery, but most people thought the meme was true and was about her, without researching the truth. It ruined her career. https://nextshark.com/heidi-yeh-chinese-family-plastic-surge...
You can't treat the Internet as an append only database where you can rectify things by publishing more stuff. The human mind is bounded rational and most people only look at the first Google search results page.
No. Google should rank the "Suspect found NOT GUILTY of murder" as the top, most relevant page, because that is truly the most relevant. If Google refuses to rank this the top, it's out of sheer laziness, just like how they refused to fix the subversive content in Youtube Kids "because algorithms". If they did this in the first place, I think most people wouldn't care so much.
You say "should". Who guarantees that? News outlets are for profit organizations. If they judge "not guilty" as something that doesn't sell as well as "guilty" then they won't publish so much content about it, and because of Google's algorithm that latter won't be ranked very high.
Even if it's ranked high, a lot of readers would still end up with this feeling that "yeah the latest news article say that but MAYBE that guy DID do something wrong... let's not hire him just to be sure", i.e. "where there is smoke there is fire".
I just gave you a practical example about the plastic surgery meme. News articles about how the woman was ruined rank nowhere near as high as the meme itself.
I think we are in agreement. Google needs to change their AI/algorithms so that the more important, relevant aspect of every story increases in rank. Not the flashy click-baity articles.
>Recently India has started tracking its citizens with their fingerprints, every thing they buy, every place they visit, every money transaction, everything.
Can't you just use cash? I assume my credit card company, my bank, their partners, and the government know where I am if I use the card. Isn't that the logic thing to think?
The US is very cash centric, but a lot of countries are slowly migrating away from it. Many stores don't accept cash and it is mostly the older generation that continue to use it.
If we want cash to remain stores must be forced (by law) to accept it, and this must be done soon. Even if we go that route you will quickly become that weirdo that payed in cash if you actually makes use of it.
Unlike the other posters, I'm not going to pretend I don't know what you're talking about. That being said, what's the point of those "MKUltra patterns"? Are they supposed to trigger some special reaction on children?
TL;DR - Thousands of extremely unpleasant videos have been published to Youtube for Kids where they have got billions of views. In many cases the videos have expensive production methods such as stop motion. Youtube has been aware of the videos since 2015. Here is an informative video on the topic.
Just a heads up, there are disturbing content and themes here. This topic is not for the feint of heart.
Thanks. FWIW - I actually don't know if its related to elsagate I was hoping to get more information in this thread (though this seems to be going nowhere).
MkUltra as far as I understand is about conditioning emotional responses to specific events or triggers. In the case of elsagate the objective seems to be to condition children to think traumatic events are normal and part of every day life. Such as being tied up, being given a needle, being defected or urinated on, locked in a closet surrounded by bugs, etc.
Its an unpleasant topic to research but there is a lot of information out there that has been declassified. Based on what I have seen I would say yes there is a relationship between the two. It could be that the MKUltra techniques are being used to captivate their audience in order to make more money on monetized videos. Not necessarily anything more sinister, though that alone is pretty terrible if true. Those videos are sick.
I see. That is very interesting, thank you. I also believe there's something really wrong with our society, and unpleasant and ill things are being normalised little by little by the media (youtube is the media too!), etc. It's frightening to think too that people will get fed up and the pushback will really be ugly.
Most of the arguments I read here are the same one: WP was fast and smooth. But it was not particularly fast, you are simply comparing it to Android, which fucking sucks.
And other than that, it had no other redeeming qualities.
Being better than Android is a low bar to clear. Android was, and remains, a Frankenstein’s monster[1] which was hastily cobbled together at Google to capitalise on the new marked created by the iPhone before MS could lock them out of it. In fact, if MS had brought WP 8 sometime in 2010, the story would be a lot different.
[1] It is evident by the fact that Google is still trying to fix the fundamentals like permissions, updates etc. Android is essentially what you get when you try to cram an OS primarily used on servers and high end workstations on a mobile phone and pair it with a programming environment which is also used primarily used on servers by implementing a quick and dirty runtime from scratch.
I'd ask you to cite some examples of why Android is a "low bar to clear", but I doubt I'd get back anything of substance.
>Android was, and remains, a Frankenstein’s monster[1] which was hastily cobbled together at Google to capitalise on the new marked created by the iPhone before MS could lock them out of it.
Could you point to the Android github examples that support your claims that Android is a Frankenstein’s monster which was hastily cobbled together? You see, that's the nice thing about being an open source OS - you can actually see the source code and call out people for making ridiculous comments about things they have no idea of what they're talking about.
>In fact, if MS had brought WP 8 sometime in 2010, the story would be a lot different.
No it wouldn't have. It would have played out exactly the way it did.
So easy for anyone that has suffered throught Android development.
Starting with Eclipse, then rebooting the whole development environment just because some management guys happened to be InteliJ users.
Several years later there are still Eclipse based tools, like the graphical manifest editor, that haven't been replicated in Studio.
NDK is treated as a 20% project, done by an handfull of engineers.
Devs were left in the cold when the migration away from Eclipse was decided. It was only due to the coincidence of Clion being developed, that Studio eventually got C++ support.
The amount of cruft on NDK build tools is a joke, already with 4 official variations.
The decision to use Gradle has made "how to optimize builds" a recorrent topic in any major Android conference.
Google teams like Android development build tools so much that they rather use blaze, throwing yet another build tool into the mix.
There isn't a single release of Android Studio or the Support Library, that isn't followed by bug related complaints on online forums, despite being several weeks, months, in testing phase.
Their initial emulator implementations was so lousy, that it required the public shame of Genymotion and Microsoft doing a better job for Google actually improving theirs.
There was so much more to rant about, but this is already quite long.
>So easy for anyone that has suffered throught Android development.
The pain of Windows phone development was significantly worse especially when you consider they kept on changing it every year because of their inferior development environment and tooling.
>Starting with Eclipse, then rebooting the whole development environment just because some management guys happened to be InteliJ users.
Google switched IDE's. Microsoft changed their development environment and tooling each time they decided to osbourne their still born OS.
>NDK is treated as a 20% project, done by an handfull of engineers.
Well, at least they stuck with it instead of chucking it to the curb each year and starting over.
>Devs were left in the cold when the migration away from Eclipse was decided. It was only due to the coincidence of Clion being developed, that Studio eventually got C++ support.
Isn't being left in the cold an annual event for Windows phone developers?
>The decision to use Gradle has made "how to optimize builds" a recorrent topic in any major Android conference.
This is in contrast to the Windows phone .build conference where there were no sessions because no one was building Windows phone apps.
>Google teams like Android development build tools so much that they rather use blaze, throwing yet another build tool into the mix.
Isn't choice good.
>There isn't a single release of Android Studio or the Support Library, that isn't followed by bug related complaints on online forums, despite being several weeks, months, in testing phase.
Because XCode and Visual Studio are bug free when new versions are released, right? Oh wait.
>Their initial emulator implementations was so lousy, that it required the public shame of Genymotion and Microsoft doing a better job for Google actually improving theirs.
Google has to support 3 platforms unlike Microsoft who couldn't even support 1.
> The pain of Windows phone development was significantly worse especially when you consider they kept on changing it every year because of their inferior development environment and tooling.
Vastly superior to Android Studio.
> Google switched IDE's. Microsoft changed their development environment and tooling each time they decided to osbourne their still born OS.
Google replaces Android Studio plugins at each major release.
Profilers, Gradle configurations, IDE plugins
> Well, at least they stuck with it instead of chucking it to the curb each year and starting over.
It already started over 4 times, with incompatible build systems.
> Isn't being left in the cold an annual event for Windows phone developers?
Not as much as at Google IO. Oh sorry, maybe you are right we don't feel the cold as we are taking care of our sun burns.
> This is in contrast to the Windows phone .build conference where there were no sessions because no one was building Windows phone apps.
There is no such thing as Windows Phone specific conference, there is only BUILD conference, Connect conference and Windows Developer days.
> Isn't choice good.
Not when it increases development costs.
> Because XCode and Visual Studio are bug free when new versions are released, right? Oh wait.
Android Studio wins in bug counts.
> Google has to support 3 platforms unlike Microsoft who couldn't even support 1.
Strangely, you cleverly forgot to mention Genymotion.
As for Microsoft their Android Emulator still runs better than Google's on Windows.
Maybe Google needs to do less inverted balanced tree whiteboard interview exercises and more OS related stuff.
Last time I installed Visual Studio that pig sprayed 30 GB of garbage all over my SSD.
>Google replaces Android Studio plugins at each major release.
It's how the IDE is updated with new features. It also doesn't need third party plugins, like Resharper, to actually make it useful.
>It already started over 4 times, with incompatible build systems.
How many build systems did Windows phone have again? Be sure to factor in the Silverlight clusterfuck.
>Not as much as at Google IO. Oh sorry, maybe you are right we don't feel the cold as we are taking care of our sun burns.
At least they have sunny weather as opposed to depressing weather followed by depressing keynotes. Hey, let's open with a 2 hour Azure demo. Did people actually pay to go to this?
>There is no such thing as Windows Phone specific conference, there is only BUILD conference, Connect conference and Windows Developer days.
Which is why I specified Build.
>Android Studio wins in bug counts.
I'll take that bet any day. I've used Xcode and it has its fair share of bugs. As for VS, when you're spraying 30GB of files your bound to have a clusterfuck of bugs.
>Strangely, you cleverly forgot to mention Genymotion.
Really? Do they also make an IDE for all 3 platforms?
>As for Microsoft their Android Emulator still runs better than Google's on Windows.
No it doesn't. It's not even comparable. Perhaps you should install the Android Emulator one of these days and compare them. In fact, I'm not even sure the Microsoft Emulator even works anymore. Do they even update it?
>Maybe Google needs to do less inverted balanced tree whiteboard interview exercises and more OS related stuff.
They have Android, Chrome OS and Fuschsia so they seem to be doing well on the OS front. As for Windows, you better hope Microsoft is prepared for the release of a free, modern, real time microkernel OS with a capabilities based security model.
>Apparently the same 30 GB aren't garbage on Android SDK's case.
My current install size is 12 GB. As for Visual Studio, when it came time to uninstall that pig of a development environment I actually had to go to Programs and Features and manually uninstall over 30-40 apps.
>Resharper?! No thanks, I want my Visual Studio to actually work.
30 plus GB's of data and they still need plugins to make it useful.
>When I want to try to take off with my laptop I start Android Studio instead.
You should really try and invest in an SSD. Android Studio launches in 8 seconds for me. Not that you actually use AS or would actually know.
>Your lack your knowledge about Genymotion supported platforms shows again that you never developed for Android.
On the contrary, the ignorance you've embarrassingly displayed shows you're either incompetent or have never used the platform.
>You mean installing the emulator created after the public shame from Genymotion and Microsoft?
Public shame is having to use Silverlight, a Flash rip off much like C# was a Java ripoff, to write Windows phone apps.
>As someone with actual Android developing experience, I execute it quite often, thank you very much for the suggestion.
I very much doubt that.
>Chrome OS, with a market restricted to US schools, ignored everywhere else.
Chrome OS decimated Microsoft in education and they'll do so elsewhere once they branch out.
>Fuchsia, an OS that is yet to move beyond alpha stage.
Reminds me of the time Microsoft said they weren't worried about Android. It's going to be nice watching Google destroy another one of their revenue streams.
> I'd ask you to cite some examples of why Android is a "low bar to clear", but I doubt I'd get back anything of substance.
Manufacturers can do mostly what they want without any downsides so at the end you just end up with ROMs similar in quality to WinXP themes. The Android APIs themselves are just layer and layer of hacks and inconsistencies on top of each other which is the main reason why most of the Android apps look so ugly in the first place.
> No they can't. They need to pass the CTS and VTS.
Well then, the CTS and VTS are so weak they are useless then.
> When was the last time you saw an Android phone? 2008? Name those WinXP themed OEM skins.
Have you worked with Samsung or a no-name Chinese brand? There's plenty of errors arising from bad ROMs customising low-level stuff they should not do.
> Considering all of the bugs and security issues iOS has had I would have to give that award to iOS.
At least iOS fixes them and they can update their devices.
> Not only do Android apps look better, but they also take up considerably less space than their bloated iOS counterparts.
That's only for the top-notch part of the Store, the rest is just a dimension below iOS in term of usability (and I say this using only Android). The reason being that you need more dev time to have the same result on Android compared to iOS.
>Well then, the CTS and VTS are so weak they are useless then.
No they're not as they enforce and verify Android compatibility.
>Have you worked with Samsung or a no-name Chinese brand? There's plenty of errors arising from bad ROMs customising low-level stuff they should not do.
Yes, and there is no WinXP theme resemblance. So, once again, where are the links to these Android Phones with WinXP like themes?
>At least iOS fixes them and they can update their devices.
So does Google with 3 years of OS and security updates for their Pixel phones.
>That's only for the top-notch part of the Store, the rest is just a dimension below iOS in term of usability (and I say this using only Android). The reason being that you need more dev time to have the same result on Android compared to iOS.
The problem with iOS apps is that the top apps seem to think their a special snowflake and that they must develop their own UI and UX to differentiate themselves. The end result is an app that doesn't follow Apple's Human Interface Design guidelines and looks and navigates completely different from every other app. And then there's the garbage apps that are blown up on an iPad because Apple didn't understand Pixel density independence.
Fast, smooth, and had very robust development environment. One thing Microsoft knows how is to develop a language/platform (.net, for example), and provide tooling around that. 5 years ago, Visual Studio was years ahead of what today's mobile tools can do.
Still way less how Google handles Android development, where recommended API in version X, turns out legacy in version X+1, replaced in X+2, but all need to be supported thanks to lack of updates.
Unlike the chaos, constant churn and developer frustration of Windows Phone development, Android development hasn't needed to osbourne their development environment and tools every year because of incompetence.
Instead they show incompetence at stuff like fragments, replacing build systems, broken Gradle builds at each update, outdated documentation, broken Android Studio and Support library releases, removing AS plugins without documenting how to work with them gone, adding PWAs and Flutter to the mix, ...
Which so much Android love I am curious to see how many apps you have released, since you seem to like the experience so much.
Incompetence was trying to convince developers to use that Flash ripoff Silverlight for mobile app development or trying to debug that horrible XAML pile of garbage or trying to build UI's with that bug infested piece of garbage expression studio. With Windows phone development you could never get comfortable because they were always osbourning the OS once they realized what a piece of garbage it was.
It's amusing how forgetful you are of all of the Windows phone development environment failures and the nightmares it entailed for developers, but somehow have Android development issues burned into your brain. I'm guessing you still harbor resentment towards Google for the failure of Windows phone. In time you'll eventually recognize that it was all due to the incompetence of Microsoft.
I was definitely not kidding. 10+ years of c# experience, and 5+ years of android, and you can see the difference between the two.
Hyper-V and so on, i certainly do not remember as I had them anyway, but talking about purely the dev env and ease of platform to me tells it all.
Android has not been written from "application dev" pov. With all these contexts, application contexts, leaky abstractions all over, it certainly is not a robust platform.
I’m European. I can be fined and/or incarcerated if what I say on the internet is arbitrarily deemed as “hate speech”. You don’t need to live in China to be censored.
That's bad, but you have bad and worse. For example in the US the TSA does things the police (and nobody, really,) should never be able to, and they do it without warrants: but that alone does not mean that the US is an authoritarian police state (even though it is more of one than it could be). Likewise, there's a difference between corporate influence in government and outright, socially accepted direct bribery.
This applies to every country, they could all be better or worse: but some of them are currently worse than others.
Having to be scanned to get on a plane seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to have to do. I fly often and I'm glad the TSA exists and does what it does. I don't feel like my liberty is being taken away in the slightest.
> Having to be scanned to get on a plane seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to have to do.
Even if that scan does little or nothing to actually improve your safety [1]? If I'm going to have my privacy taken away, I want something better in return for it than security theater and wasted taxes.
>I'm glad the TSA exists and does what it does. I don't feel like my liberty is being taken away in the slightest.
If you truly believe that, would you be opposed to TSA style x-ray machines, genital pat downs, and strip searches any time you were to go to school, work, get on a bus, etc?
Well that would be an inconvenience because I and many others go to work and ride public transport every day. Which is why we don't see TSA checkpoints everywhere; it would be too inconvenient.
People fly infrequently though, and also have a very strong desire to feel safe when flying, so they are for the most part fine with TSA checkpoints. TSA checkpoints are implemented to make people feel safe.
The Police of London actively scan and monitor social networks looking for “hate speech” so they can pursue legal action. What’s the difference between that and what China does?
The difference is that you can criticize the government and not be thrown in jail. You have a lot more autonomy in your opinions on how you are governed. You can have his conversation at all!
> Contrary to previous understandings, posts with negative, even vitriolic, criticism of [China], its leaders, and its policies are not more likely to be censored. Instead, we show that the censorship program is aimed at curtailing collective action by silencing comments that represent, reinforce, or spur social mobilization, regardless of content.
London deemed hate wpeech punishable, China determines certain speech (that it deems bad for society as well) punishable. No difference except for a difference in perspective.
It's funny, hate speech laws are unconstitutional and could not be passed in the US but such laws are commonplace in Europe. Yet people like to mock the US for saying it's the land of the free.
