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Stop making your kids my fucking problem/annoyance.

Some company or, hell, the gov't setup a proxy service that whitelists the internet and have your kid use that. Do your fucking job.


Where I'm at, busy corridors have a bus that has fewer stops (https://www.cdta.org/brt).

"I caved to the blue bubble pressure"

The fact that this is a real thing is ridiculous. Say no and move on with life. This is the type of freedom that is actually freeing.


Definitely ridiculous and mostly an exaggeration on my part. There is some truth to it because the features of iMessage group chats are fun (stickers, message animations, etc.) but more generally I just like the Apple ecosystem.

My personal devices are usually Apple products and they all work together pretty seamlessly. Then I have all my other Linux servers, Windows desktops, random tablets, etc. for my hobby projects which generally require more manual configuration to work together.

I just like having my “personal” things within an aesthetically pleasing, relatively privacy preserving ecosystem but I get my kicks outside of that ecosystem aplenty.


Its a real issue in North America.

SMS and as a result iMessage is the dominant text based chat.

iPhones have become the default smartphone, and is a status symbol compared to Android.

Mac vs Windows is similar on the laptop front.

Which means if your an Android user in a relatively average social group:

* You will get left out of group messages

* You will be starting on a back foot in the dating scene

On top of you wont be able to answer messages from friends on your laptop, because again, sms is dominant, not whatsapp.

Now don't shoot the messenger here. I don't like it either, but this is the social/technical reality in NA at the moment.

(sigh: receiving downvotes)


> iPhones have become the default smartphone, and is a status symbol compared to Android.

It does not function as a status symbol in the west. It's not a big deal to get one if you really want to and live in a developed country. People in asian countries making 1/8th of their american counterparts can afford iPhones. Someone making minimum wage in Germany can buy one using about 3-4 months worth of saved disposable income. In the states they'll throw one after you on credit without looking at you twice. It's only a status symbol if you want to set yourself apart from someone living in Zimbabwe... oh wait they also have lots of iPhone users. From who exactly? Afghanis?

Honestly if the bar for status symbol's is that low, you should sooner consider excercise and good dietary habits. These days in many western counties that will do many orders of magnitude more for how people perceive you and your dating life. Certainly more than what flavour of annoying chiming piece of shit you bought.



I might have a bridge to sell you.

What says a lot is that you had to dredge up some up to 7 years old posts on reddit, on which replies still overwhelmingly call the idea silly. This smells like an attempt to manufacture consent, but it'd be pretty low effort for even that.

As a rule, if something sounds stupid to you, it will probably be just as silly to most people you should give a damn about. Certainly don't let some posts that look like the lowest-effort FUD imaginable tell you what other people think.


I may have something to teach you about indicators, averages, and population samples/biases.

We're not debating majority opinion here. Just that people exist who have that bias / perception and what it leads to.

People exist that judge and exclude based on if you have have an Android.

Im sure the reverse exits too.

Im also sure the former is more common than the later.

But I have no idea how large that population is.

Just like Im not in that population.


> I may have something to teach you about indicators, averages, and population samples/biases.

You didn't sample. You filtered. You used a search engine to zero in on a couple dozen in a population of 350 million, then suggest to me that the mere fact that there's at least some means it's an opinion held by enough people to matter, when in fact it's probably not - even going by the references you selected yourself.

That you throw around some statistics lingo after all that is hysterically funny to me.

Scientific rigor never was the bar to convincing me, but since you brought it up yourself, be my guest.

> People exist that judge and exclude based on if you have have an Android.

We're not debating whether such people exist, we're interested in what the experience of someone using an Android phone is likely to be. Remember that an original claim was "Which means if your an Android user in a relatively average social group: [the following will happen]"

This conversation is very much about average/majority opinion and has been from the beginning. I might let you weaken that to "an android user is likely to have at least occasional bad experiences in some social groups" - if you're willing to at least provide evidence to support that much.

After all, what could be your purpose in bringing something up that has no relevance to almost anyone? You'd just be wasting both of our time.


> * You will be starting on a back foot in the dating scene

Perhaps you should be focusing on losing weight instead of blaming the color of your text messages, lmao.


Fit, happy, married and have the cognitive ability to not conflate the message with the messenger.


Sounds like a good way to filter out assholes. Anyone who cares what phone you use in this way is someone you don't want in your life.


Maybe, but let me pose you mental model that a lot of NA iPhone users have.

For a long time, if you were on iOS and added a android user to your group chat. All threading was broken. It was no longer a group chat just a bunch of out of band messages.

So iOS users naturally started leaving the android user out of the chat. They would text their 5 friends on iOS in one group to make plans, then text their Android friend separately to update them when plans were made.

I believe this is relatively fixed in latest iOS, but that habit is still very much their in iOS users today.

Anecdotally I did just experience a group chat of 4 iOS users this year that was very active, then died when one person switched to Android.


It's hardly surprising when a large percentage of HN users will whiteknight a trillion dollar company whenever EU tells them to stop anti-competitive practices.


Especially with RCS support, I’m more willing to leave iOS more than ever. Group chats aren’t as easy but everyone uses WhatsApp anyway.


RCS on Android seems to require Google services, which is just as bad as Apple, and seems to not work well with GrapheneOS.


Signal has blue bubbles if you care, and is hands down better for privacy.


Not a specification but "Be liberal in what you accept?" comes to mind. (which I always personally hated but i'm just one shoveler).


Postel's law was a precept of the Internet of the 80's and 90's, when due to the primitive software engineering practices at that time, implementations couldn't be tested properly. That lead to many cases of poor interoperability, and it's no longer a good idea: for example, when HTML 5 was designed, they decide to put into the spec how to deal with the frequent errors like mismatched closing tags, etc... because all major implementations were "liberal" in what they accepted, but each in a different way.


Queueing culture is hilarious. Indians > Italians (ok, Italians are probably more entertaining), brits (I imagined them trying to bring queueing to indians and gave up... although india does have a semi-line culture in limited ways nowadays). As an american, grocery checkout queueing always angered me.


Queuing culture is just baseline respect from my POV. Same with not littering, respecting shared (public) resources, etc.

Actually quite unbelievable to see it considered hilarious.


Certain workflows prefer non-queueing, for instance the throng empowers the bartender to load balance different groups, delay drinks to over consumers, etc etc. So other cultures can have those workflows in places we might not expect, that is not necessarily a matter of respect. In pub culture, queueing disrespects the bartender.


It depends. Many places in the UK have a tradition of "virtual queuing" at bars; they don't stand in a line because that would usually block the space, but everyone remembers who was before them. Usually the barkeep remembers as well, but sometimes they ask "who's next" and people defer to those ahead. But load balancing also happens.


You're conflating efficiency norms with respect norms. Never mind that the core reason for no queues in bars is space efficiency and historical norms, allowing the bartender to select regulars, better paying customers, etc. without being stressed for time.

But in any case, your edge-cas applies when someone exists to manage the queue. That's not the case for e.g. elevators, self-checkout lanes, DMV lines, or, I'd argue, that vast majority of queues encountered regularly.


> Queuing... not littering, respecting shared (public) resources

Well, Indians are the pits in all 3, so your definition computes.

Source: am Indian.


> As an american, grocery checkout queueing always angered me.

It should, because practically everywhere in the US does it wrong. There should be a single entry queue that distributes to the multiple handlers. Instead, you wind up with multiple queues so that people get hung up behind someone causing slow handling.

The one that infuriates me are bank queues. Look, folks, both queuing theory and experience show that you CANNOT have a single handler without your queue time going to infinity. So, how many active tellers do I always see on the unusual times I have to go into the bank? Exactly one. Always. And a queue that's backed up 6 deep.


> There should be a single entry queue that distributes to the multiple handlers.

Sure, that's more fair. But it also means everyone has to walk over to the queue entry. And often requires dedicated floorspace. If there's not good queuing discipline, it leads to larger gaps between customers at the registers and poor throughput. If there's a queue minder (which there probably should be in order to distribute people into subqueues), that person can steer customers to benefit their favorite register people: this was common at Fry's; register operators got a commission, so and some queue mindets would collude steer expensive carts to preferred registers.

Multiple independent queues works fairly well and avoids extensive coordination. Even if people don't like it.


Instead, you wind up with multiple queues so that people get hung up behind someone causing slow handling.

Have you tried not caring about how fast the other queue is moving? IF you are in a hurry then most stores have 'quick registers' for people who are buying less than 10 or some similarly low number of items. And obviously if you get behind someone with a full cart you'll be waiting a bit longer, but you can only guess about the last person in the queue. But if I'm not in a hurry and have too many groceries to go through the express lane, I don't see the point in staring at other lines and being upset if one is moving faster than yours. Over time this is one of those things that just averages out.


By the efficient market hypothesis, if a spot in another queue was quicker someone would have already taken it.


> It should, because practically everywhere in the US does it wrong

Where do they do it differently? I've been in grocery stores across Western Europe, Asia and Latin America, and the only place I recall seeing the single entry queue was at a Trader Joe's in NYC


The Barnes & Noble Bookstore (at least the two or three I have been to in the past 10 years) has a single queue. Fry's Electronics did it that way. The self-pay corral at HEB (a huge Texas grocery chain) with about 14 check-out stations does it that way. The Academy Sporting Goods store near me does it that way. The Austin Bergstrom Airport security gates are that way.

I agree that many places have a queue for each registers, but the other way isn't entirely rare.


Large grocery stores actually seem to do this the least, but many types of stores default to this in much of the world. Clothing stores, book stores, stationary stores.

Many larger convenience stores do and those are close to being small grocery stores.


I hear the Chinese don't even have a word for it >..<


I switched my parents to linux during the gnome 2 days and have given them a consistent environment ever since (kept them on mate).

It is true, they could not do this themselves and sometimes my mom can test my patience, but this is the way if you can do it. (Hint: get a remote desktop with shared view working first :).

Really, the stronghold for windows is their office suite (other family require Word/Excel for work), enterprise domain integration (work to home pc familiarity), and, to a weaker extent, gaming. Gaming is why I still keep an install of windows on my pc.


"My email is now being hosted by Microsoft..."

Out of the pan, into the fire.

my recommendation: i've been happily using fastmail for years.


I tried using Hotmail as my primary for a while a few years ago and I've never seen more legitimate mail being entirely dropped with no explanation. It would never reach the inbox, it wouldn't be in the junk folder, it was as if the other party had never even sent it, despite assuring me they had. Never had that happen with Gmail or really any other mail service out there.


Have you considered using AWS WorkMail? Very easy to set up, even helps you with MX/DKIM/DMARC/SPF if you use Route53, and only $4/month/user I believe. Granted, you won't get anywhere near Google's level of automatic credibility, but even that is relatively low for young gmail accounts.


I thought it's meant for business usage. Why are you interested in WorkMail compared to other million email products?


> $4/month/user

My VPS host lets me use hundreds of emails for like $7/month besides the actual hosting. Of course, Microsoft charges even more for a single...


Maybe it’s just me, but I have serious issue with Fastmail’s spam filtering. Meaning, it seems that I am the spam filter. I find myself considering closing the account on a regular basis because of it.

I am also extremely frustrated with Gmail’s AI features now being apparently impossible to disable.


> Fastmail’s spam filtering

I had issues with it early on, and after some back and forth with support they explained to me what is going on: it takes about 200 spam emails before your personalized filter kicks in, before that you might see something slip through. Also, the spam filter updates after you delete emails from your spam folder. Just remember to empty your spam folder, and add some custom rules until you reach that 200 threshold.

5+ years in, everything is working great, nothing to complain, best email provider I've ever used. I only wish they had servers in the EU.


This has been my number one request for fastmail for years. They're happy with GDPR compliance but no intentions of having EU servers.


Fastmail's spam filter has been better than Gmail's spam filter in my experience.


Thier spam filter is really great, probably only one time they flagged a legit email as a spam. On the other hand, the email I have that uses fastmail never ended in someone’s spam.


Seconding Fastmail here.

Microsoft is an insane choice, just look at what they've done with Windows and their Office suite.


Pretty much lost me at that point.


Yeah I laughed when I saw he'd moved to MS, but I'd love to get some more alternatives.

My ISP has already said they're going to stop providing email service at some point in the near future and I'll have to migrate at some point. In the past I'd picked up a cheap domain and self-hosted for a bit, but I'd love to not have to. Any good email providers out there that actually respect their customers and support IMAP?


I moved my personal email from Google a few years ago to https://inbox.eu which was by far the cheapest option for mailboxes for the whole family on custom domains etc. They've been very solid, I have no regrets. Their spam filtering has been a little hit and miss but other than that, solid.

Work email is moving from Google to https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite/ksuite-pro - if you're not bothered about custom domains, they also offer an excellent free tier for personal use: https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite/myksuite


It looks like inbox.eu does sell your data and/or use it to push personalized ads. If I'm paying for something I don't want ads and I'd really prefer that whoever I pay weren't reading my personal mail for things to use against me.


I tried to get the free tier but even when I select personal it only offers me paid options.

Very weird and it feels misleading because they advertise free so much. I just wanted to try it out with an intent to subscribe but I left it because of that.


Purchase a domain and point the MX record(s) to any provider you'd like. If you end up not liking that provider, you simply point the domain to a different one.

That's the main advantage of not using the provider's domain as a part of your email address (like @gmail.com, @outlook.com or whatever).


"My email is now being hosted by Microsoft..."

Please tell me this is parody.


And in U.S., Trump stopped the coastal wind farms here in the east... for "national security" reasons.


Doesn't look like a free software license. No purposeful harm to humans and no AI usage direct or indirect.


I dislike these "non-free" licenses because the actors they purport to stop aren't going to care (why would a terrorist cell care about licenses? if AI training is fair use, then why would AI companies care about licenses?). All it does is create obstacles for legitimate people.


openai will settle out of court and family will get some amount of money. next.


That would set a bad precedent. We're talking about an adult taking his own life. In Canada the government will not only coach you how to do it, they'll provide the poison and give you a hospital bed to carry out the act. A number of other governments do this too.

That's not to equate governments and private internet services, but I think it puts it into perspective, that even governments don't think suicide is the worst choice some of the times. Who are we to day he made the wrong choice, really it was his to make. Nobody was egging him on.

And if you believe people that say LLMs are nothing but stolen content, then would those books / other sources have been culpable if he had happened to read them before taking his own life?


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