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Hahaha comments agreeing with this sentiment are getting downvoted, and the thread itself has been flagged.


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was the article flagged because of comments or because of content? op, don't want to step on toes.


Users flagged it, presumably because they didn't think it followed the site guidelines. Hard to say if they were reacting to the article or the thread. Divisive topics like this pretty much always turn into flamewars unless they include significant new information for the mind to chew on.


Well, the wealthy get to take time off of work to go camping and hiking, and the poor people get to dynamite the hills their ancestors settled. Surely they're equivalent.


I’m not an expert on top chopping but I’m pretty sure the employment opportunities for local residents are slim to none and that’s the whole point. I went to school in North Carolina where about a 2 mile drive around the side of a mountain would bring us to an overlook of a valley full of peaks that we gradually watched disappear over those 3 years I was there. The machinery was utterly massive. I think the logging crews employed more people than the earth movers but I think logging on those hillsides qualifies as one of the most deadly jobs in America. They made a TV show about it.


It reads like "the Poors can live Outdoors!"* but I'm going to assume I'm mistaken or that that couldn't possibly be a popular opinion on hn.

*this is a joke and if you want to argue that i'm implying that everyone in West Virginia is homeless, bless your heart


Can you expand on this? I genuinely don't understand the "poor people are adjacent to trees" statement in the context of an entire country. Like genuinely this sounds like solid comedy unless I'm missing something here.


When you're a broke white hillbilly, you hunt and fish and do stuff outdoors because its there, its cheap, and there ain't much else to do.

Source: Grew up broke hillbilly


It's interesting because in Europe fishing has become an expensive pastime - that might prove the OP's point. When on vacation in Cape Cod I was pleased that fishing rights in sweetwater seem to be some kind of common property. In Europe it's state property that is licensed to private associations that sell things like daily permits which amount to around 15 to 30 euros.


I want "Source: Grew up broke hillbilly" on a t-shirt.


It’s only cheap for them because they inherited vast tracts of land.


What? Do you actually believe this?

I grew up in the northern end of Appalachia, with a lot of people that had less than an acre their doublewide sat on. Nothing stopped them using the ponds and lakes, the trail systems, or the technically private but defacto public access swathes of paper company land.


Not only did they use them for recreation, they often hunted for food. Technically illegal out of season, but national forest rangers tend to look the other way if you're hunting for sustenance, since those same poachers often would blow the whistle on more serious issues. (Illegal waste dumping, marijuana grows that abuse the forest with chemicals, meth labs that might explode and start fires, etc)

Plus as a practical matter, if someone takes one shot at a deer then moves regardless of success, it's pretty much impossible to pinpoint where the shot came from.


That's weird. A very large chunk of poor people I've met live in urban areas, and if they don't, often lack the time or resources to do those things. I must know a special type of poor person that OP hasn't bumped into.


The responses to this are genuinely some of the funniest posts I've seen on this website. The amount of gymnastics people are doing to avoid mentioning that these large companies have gotten millions/billions of handouts from the state and city and are therefore in a different class/category of business than your average brick and mortar shop.

So I'll clarify 90% of the detractors comments here: "To the people of San Francisco: Fuck you, got mine. The fact that i lied about the nature and value of our economic contribution to the community and you bought it puts you at fault. I won my ivory tower through any means necessary, and therefore it's immoral to suggest that I in any demonstrable way cooperate to improve anything outside if it. Again. Fuck you. Got mine. "

You can skip all the comments now! :)


There would never be rent seeking behavior without regulations. The natural state of mankind is perfect harmonious cooperation without the spectre of rules agreed upon by communities.


> If Princes and Monarchs could but preserve this simplicity, every creature in the world would submit itself to them; Heaven and Earth would be in mutual accord, and shower down sweet dew; the people would need no laws, but live in harmony of themselves.


You're totally right. All of those movie theaters that were heavily subsidized by billions in public money or tax cuts based on the promise of providing foot traffic and value to adjoining businesses should have their day!


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