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Brilliant write up! Made me laugh a lot, especially the end with Haskell :)


[I deleted this post because it probably is against the HN guidelines]


There's plenty of misinformation on Twitter and Reddit too. In fact they're overflowing with trolls, shills and censorship and you need to be very particular in the way you approach the information if it's to be at all useful.


absolutely, but at least there is some valuable information to be extracted.


twitter is too noisy for me too. is there a dispassionate, neutral-ish newsletter covering all this that you would recommend?


And noone on reddit or Twitter is shilling?


Of course, but there is also the valuable information you have to extract yourself, which is not the case for this "news sites"


The only interesting thing about Crypto space is that it keeps going up. Everything else is kinda interesting for a few people.


And you didn't mention anything wrong?

Btw I believe these posts are against the mod rules.


Ahh sry, ok. Just wanted to share my impression. Then please can some mod delete my original post?


I just read it and like it very much, especially for its brevity and because it is on-point. If you have experience with low level languages, pointers, memory and actually have some programming experience, then this is your book, especially because it is so up-to-date.

But I would not recommend it to someone, who has no experience and wants to learn C as a first language.


For those interested in Segment, this is a talk of Peter Reinhardt about Product Market Fit and a bit of the history behind Segment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6pl5GG8RQ4

I like this talk really much.


Awesome journey. They pivoted to doing something completely different.


this is a similar solution for transfering files without storing. it requires both sender an receiver to be online at the same time. https://github.com/warner/magic-wormhole



+1 for Effective C. Great writing and diagrams.


+1 most important C intro since K&R


It's definitely not an absolute beginners book though.


Congratulations!

To be honest, what I am most interested in, is how you got the people to actually care. So what exactly did you do for marketing? Did it just work, or how exactly did you achieve initial traction?


Haha, this is actually still an open question. My marketing thus far has been exclusively just posting it on a couple subreddits and this Hacker News thread. I don't think I've yet achieved traction because there aren't enough users to sustain interest so most people get bored pretty quickly and log off, but I'm working on it! If I figure this out I'll let you know though.


I have tried out loki, too. But I was not satisfied because you have to run an extra server for it. I have only a very small app so I was searching for a much simpler solution and found https://goaccess.io/ . The nice thing is that it is very flexible (you can pipe your logs in command line, but also run as a server) and if you are using standard tools like e.g. nginx or apache, the setup only takes an evening :)

Here are a few more monitoring tools listed https://turtle.community/topic/monitoring

It is always a question of complexity and how much time you want to spend :) At first I used Multitail to peek into server logs via ssh. Then I switched to GoAccess and if you really have a greater infrastructure I would maybe switch to Loki or ELK.


I've used GoAccess in the past, but didn't find it a good fit esp. since I prefer JSON logs. I don't know if it supports this - maybe I didn't read enough docs - but at the time, I remember it was easier to spend an hour whipping up a tool in Go that did exactly what I wanted.

As for loki, it's a separate server but the setup takes maybe 10-30 minutes of reading some docs, maybe changing some config files and the systemd unit file to keep it up and running is less than 10 lines (most of which is boilerplate).

Of-course I have the benefit of a client library so I can just call a function on a struct at the end of a request with no need to worry about serializing the relevant data into some predetermined format, compression, etc.


> I've used GoAccess in the past, but didn't find it a good fit esp. since I prefer JSON logs. I don't know if it supports this

Yes, GoAccess supports HTML, JSON and CSV: goaccess --output=json


I thought goaccess (which is spectacular) was for HTTP logs, and not a general purpose logging solution


thx! here are a few more https://turtle.community/topic/design


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