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12.5+ billion dollars isn't intangible, even for Google.


He's trying to say that Google paid something tangible for something intangible. It's difficult to estimate the present value of a patent portfolio, ergo it's "intangible".


If you agree that these types of questions are not a good measure of job performance, why encourage this line of questioning? Wouldn't it be better for the industry as a whole to discover better ways to determine future job performance?


I don't set interviewing policy at my company, and anyway I'm unfamiliar with any technique that provides better results. I suppose finding it is a direction of research that would be interesting, but I have a full time job just being an engineer.

My comment is only meant as practical advice to candidates. It is not normative.


knowing these are not going to guarantee good performance. But not knowing them is a clear indication of incompetence. A programmer who doesn't know basic algorithms and data structure is a bad programmer.


Obviously more knowledge is good knowledge. And perhaps the bar for being a good programmer involves being able to

1) Implement a red black tree on a white board

I would argue, though, if that's the bar, there are probably other bars that are a bit lower that at least some of the algorithm triumphalists would fail, such as to

2) Throw up a basic and secure Wordpress site on an Amazon EC2 instance

or

3) You're running into an issue where you're getting an error message about running out of file descriptors. Tell me what's the issue here and what you'd do about it

or

4) write a basic, safe script that makes backups of each file in a given directory and its subdirectories

or

5) tell me what the fuck is the clearfix?

Now, if intermediate algorithms is something that people should be able to do, surely you'd agree 2-5 are even lower bars to meet (since they're things that virtually all of those "bad programmers" are able to do). By the same token, though, it's absolutely the case that many hires at the BigCos actually wouldn't be able to respond to 2-5.

I wouldn't say that those people shouldn't have been hired; after all, people learn! But if algorithms are actually part of the everyday job, someone could also learn them, no?

To the extent that you're testing for raw intelligence--which is the most important aspect of any of these types of jobs--algorithms are a good ruler. But to equate the measurer with the measure is somewhat foolish, because it's a means to an end, not the end itself. If you can use other probes of raw intelligence, those function just as well as being able to vomit up algorithms and data structures that, as people point out, any person who spends a month or so studying can get a solid grasp on and then never need again.


where are these numbers coming from?


It's not going to mean something due to more rigorous filters.


So what are you doing about it?


Oh, you know. Writing HN comments.


Yahoo is no stranger to layoffs, why go about it in such an obtuse way? Maybe the simplest answer is the most likely one - they want more control over their employees.


Exactly. The people who only work from home is in the low hundreds ~200 is what's being bandied about. That would have near zero impact on headcount. Other issues are at play.


AppCode is not a part of the IDEA bundle. It follows XCode more closely than the generic project format that IDEA and the other apps use.


Thanks for the answer! I am going to try to find whats a part of the IDEA bundle so that I have a more defined picture before purchasing :-D



This particular hit comes from Motorola losing money last quarter, not the costs related to acquisition.


Maybe he's not interested in promoting competition for his other business.


Of course he isn't interested in promoting competition for other business. I'm not saying that he has to do so, it is his business. But I imagine content creators aren't interested in helping to pay Marco's salary via providing content for Instapaper, yet Marco doesn't ask them. There is a clear double standard: if it is your content, it is mine to use unless you go well out of your way to say otherwise. If it is my content, hands off, bub.

I'd be more impressed if he did allow sharing to competitors and let Instapaper win on quality, not a hard coded restriction. It would show a remarkable faith in his product.


There is an opt-out link on instapaper's publishers page at http://www.instapaper.com/publishers

If publishers don't like being scraped by instapaper they can opt-out. So far it looks like "no major publishers" have.


As I duly noted in my original comment. Once again, defaults matter.


Now I've heard of them and would recommend people to not use them because of these tactics.


I'd actually recommend you give both services a try and see which you actually like before making a recommendation to anyone, one way or the other.


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