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You and the poster above disagree about the state of Twitter.

Twitter had been a growth company, it was early/missed the market with Vine, but was showing ad growth.

Now, as a private company, backed by the world's richest man, sovreign wealth funds, and banks that have written down their stakes, it has different economics than a tech / growth company.

It's ad revenue is now, not in the ballpark of the fortune 500 or trendy Instagram ads, but somewhere between reddit and sin site markets.


The purpose of Twitter is IMO no longer to be profitable.

For a man with a trillion dollar fortune it’s just his personal equivalent of Fox News, a way to shape the nations conversation.

Plus a way to get data for xAI.

In that regard it’s a huge sucess. I use grok to find out about stuff on X and it’s very effective. Grok is also nowhere as bad as it should be (it’s still not great).


Most companies aren't that. Twitter is basically yellow journalism owned by a robber barron, just like in the 1880s.

Shape national conversations*, sure.

A way to get data for xAI? Eh, I guess. But it's a source of bad data. Most social media is, even the best case is stuff like Stack Overflow. It wouldn't surprise me if this was at least a strong component of why Grok called itself "Mecha Hitler".

Huge success? Unfortunately I have to agree, given the US government still ended up integrating it despite the Mecha Hitler incident.

> I use grok to find out about stuff on X and it’s very effective.

As with all of these things, I have to ask: How confident are you that it's telling you true things, rather than just true-sounding things? My expectation is Grok will be overtraining on benchmarks (even relative to the others, who will also be doing so at least a bit), and Grok's benchmarks will include twitter reactions, and it will be Goodhart's-law-ing itself in the process to maximally effective rhetoric rather than maximally effective (even by the standards of other LLMs) "truth-seeking".

* plural, not "the", it also works in at least the UK as well as the US


> Did the maker movement end? I dont think so

Bump.

Because we had our first high profile murder using a 3d printed weapon just last year.


> But sure, let's not work on multiple paths.

The article is about a sign of failure of one of the multiple paths that was pursued by Japan and Ca State subsidies that was attempted over the last 20 years.

You can work on multiple paths, but to not measure and adjust defeats the purpose.


I think you just described American cable boxes... Except they charge us a monthly fee and an additional monthly fee for the box.

Or any smart tv with free ip tv.


It's metric chasing;

If the metric is everyone passes, then you either taught really well or lowered the standard.


There is more than 2 ways to get to the required goal, but your analogy generally holds.

In context of the thread, that's because AI fixes the key problem with comments, because it maintains them when the code is updated.

> engineer that submitted it

This is a poor metric as soon as you reach a scale where you've hired an additional engineer, where 10% annual employee turnover reflects > 1 employee, much less the scale where a layoff is possible.

It's also only a hope as soon as you have dependencies that you don't directly manage like community libraries.


To put this in perspective, there are huge issues recyling lead acid batteries exposed this year.

I consider lead acid batteries relatively simple with all materials being large and not particularly binding.

But it's somehow easy to outsource this to a smelter with inappropriate smelting, and no controls on worker safety.

So anything smaller, more complex, or more interewined, with things like silica involved...


Interestingly lead acid batteries are the most recycled consumer goods.

Of course that’s not to say there are no problems with the process.


> when it was about differences in fiscal policy and taxation.

It was never only about that. But they weren't saying the quiet part out loud.


Keeping a 1-2 car's length stopping distance is likely over a 50% reduction in at fault damages.


You can get this with just a fairly dumb radar cruise control system, though.


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