Ah, yes, sorry - I should have made it clearer that I don’t disagree that this is a problem, more that the methods they are using might make people more paranoid rather than giving them actionable ways to protect themselves. It is all whacky gadgets and bad science.
That’s pretty impressive. Any chance you can shed light on the feasibility of this for a standard high school dropout? Did you have certain luxuries from family or otherwise that made this possible?
I’m mostly asking to learn how the US system (assuming you’re in the US) supports folks taking this path.
I definitely had advantages in that I knew tools like Khan Academy existed, was not battling depression, and also had talked to people who I admired and saw they were not so different than me. I also had a mother who loved me and a step-father who came into my life a bit later who cared, but they were dealing with some pretty big challenges of their own, including mental health, bad relationships, debt, children who were in and out of jail, and everything that comes with that. I do not like to spend too much time focused on race, but I am a white male, which was also an advantage.
At the time I was leveraging Khan Academy I was around 24, had distanced myself from the people I had grown up with who were not on a positive track. I also don't know how, but somehow I got it in my head that finance was the universal language and that learning more about finance was the key to understanding more about the world. So I was very focused on that. I had no clue what economics was at the time, but once I learned about that, I was addicted. Finding topics like that deeply interesting is a HUGE advantage.
At that time, I was living on my own and had a stable job managing a department at Home Depot. I slept on an air mattress and didn't have any money to speak of, but I had enough time on my hands that I could spend time at a coffee shop after work and on my days off working my way through the knowledge map on KA, starting with long division (which was humiliating) and learning how to do everything by hand, and then progressing from topic to topic. My goal was to not have to take a remedial math class at the local junior college (2 year colleges in the US). I spent months mastering basic math and worked my way to more advanced topics (1 million energy points on KA, not sure if that's a lot but I'm still proud of it).
One last advantage I had was that I genuinely enjoyed learning and talking to people, and it showed. And I was young. So people were willing to take the risk. Many people were willing to give me a chance, encouragement, and their time as I was making my way through school. If I had a question or was interested in a career or topic, I would just ask someone if I could call them or shadow them, and most the time they would say yes. I had nothing to lose by asking, and was always amazed how often it worked.
I try to share this with others who were in my position so they know it is possible.
Wow, this is a personal Top 100 post on this board for me. What a great story. This part was really touching: <<starting with long division (which was humiliating)>>
Thank you! I would literally make sure my back was to a corner so no one could see what was on my screen haha.
Needless to say, I spend a lot of time on math with my oldest (who just turned four!). She does not need to be great, she just needs to not be intimidated and understand she can learn anything.
I got into a job in corporate IT at a good company and then moved through a bunch of roles, including putting together one of our first data science/ML teams. A couple years later when I was doing product work, gpt 2 came out, so I had started working with it for fun and writing Points of View for our company about how we could leverage these technologies and what the market dynamics would looks like and implications, etc. (I am basically a dollar store version of Ben Thompson.)
It was mostly dismissed at the time, because Alexa and Siri were what people thought of, but when ChatGPT got released I was in a great position and was able to quickly ship. Now I lead that capability for one of our relatively large subsidiaries.
For me, what lead me here was mostly a fascination with the decreasing marginal cost of knowledge work. There is something about building these types of products that is just very fun and feels like cheating, I love it.
Was the lack of formal education a big problem getting started with that good company? I'm pleasantly surprised your resume made it past the first line of throwing-it-out
No, but I work for a company with a very unique perspective on education and merit. They are a large privately held firm that does not care about degrees (for 95% of things).
When I was a year in to my career I sat down with one of our senior execs and asked if I should get an MBA, and he said “don’t waste your time, you are already in a university and we will teach you everything you need to know”. And that has been true.
Make no mistake, it is definitely a disadvantage but I got lucky.
Can you add more detail here? What is your prediction? That they will (1) change their mind and not be at peace, because this feeling doesn't last or (2) they will not accomplish much because ambition is not compatible with being satisfied?
(this is my wild guess based on the tone of your post, just trying to understand it)
I get from the text that you can have peace of mind and progress towards your goal. That peace of mind allows you to progress easily, less troubled. It doesn't say your ambitions are invariable once you choose them.
The fact you realize your original ambition is not what you want anymore you still got all the learnings from the path.
You missed my point.
Wrong ambitions that I'm talking about are the ones that make you take actions that have consequences, you chase an ambition that makes you lose other things and you may only realize that once those things are lost forever.
Yes just a few more years of ambition boiling away inside soon to be reduced by half as they realize the average person’s support network for ambition is non-existent.
We all have ambition and a peacefulness to it, but the most successful people have connections to utilize that peace and ambition. When your family or friends barely support your ambitions your network will not have a jump start on everyone else.
> your network will not have a jump start on everyone else
I think this is not the most useful frame. You don't necessarily need to outcompete people for limited spots (I think a lot of people's definition of success or greatness is very narrow, and mostly informed by what others are vying for)
I think the bar for doing something great is shockingly low, most people aren't even trying. That's the impression I get every time I read a patio11 article (most recently the super long but worth it "story of vaccinate CA" [1]. This is not patio but same vibe, "Lies, Damned Lies, and Manometer Readings" [2]). My takeaway from these is that there are big problems in society that nobody is working on.
This is kind of a good thing for ambitious folks: everywhere you look there are problems everywhere, the bar for making something better than what is there is low. I think the network & support is critical but it isn't always given. I think great things happen when we start to move towards what we are capable of fixing, what is within our control, finding others who have that attitude and supporting each other.
I think for me now, the point isn't to outcompete everyone/make it to the top 1% or whatnot, it's to make it as far as is possible with what I have. Those two approaches are identical if you have the support to reach the 1%. But if not, why worry about what is outside of my control? I have plenty within my control in the menatime.
I agree. My point was less “outcompete and recognize network advantage” and more “without support you will burn up your ambition faster and move slower”. A lot of the time people look up to those who have made it and wondering how they can be equivalent; you can be just as successful as Richie Rich if you have people actually supporting your ambitions…which many successful people have but do not acknowledge.
Oracle Cloud has a very generous free tier, including a 4 vCPU 24GB RAM machine and two smaller 1 vCPU 1GB RAM machines. It also includes 200GB of storage to split between the instances however you like.
Alternatively you could find the router, login to the access panel and see if any cameras are logged into the network.
Amazon has a ton of cheap, hidden spy cams. It’s quite scary.