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See https://new.rt.ht for bidi i⇄o sync demos!

The PDF ones are especially fun!

The whole playground is built for bidi sync!


Wait, what is this?! It's really cool


Workers KV has been down since ~ 2025-06-12 17:53 UTC.

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https://clock.rt.ht/::code has a sophisticated custom <analog-clock> HTML element!

https://go.rt.ht has other custom elements!


Yeah, no! GSAP is not open-source → they can pull the rag on you anytime. No need for drama when we can find/generate alternatives.


You're free to use/do as you wish, but GSAP is a remarkably powerful library that benefits from two decades of very smart people optimizing it.

It's very typical for someone to look at something that is only 95% perfect and declare that they could replace it in a few days or weeks, while simply refusing to learn from history (or Joel Spolsky's warnings against the big rewrite).


No. As an industry we need to start consolidating on open source tooling, we see what happens when a company breaks away from open source licenses: it hurts consumers at their detriment.

Your quote has no bearing in this context. We aren't talking about rewriting our projects, we're talking about purposely choosing open and free tools.

Also GSAP isn't even the leading animation library in JS ecosystem, thankfully.


I was thinking about this further, and I wanted to say that you're confusing what you want with what "we" "need" to do.

I'm not trying to be argumentative so much as point out that different people/companies have different goals, motivations and values. There are many stops between avoidance and zealotry.

For the people/companies who were happy to pay for Greensock and happier to use it for free-as-in-beer, clearly there is something there which speaks to them regardless of how it is licensed. It's important to remember that freedom means people can absolutely choose a paid product, and that's no moral or ethical lapse but often an educated decision.


Web flow will sue you if you use green sock as a competitor. In what world of truly open source software is that something we should allow as a society? Let alone want.

I don’t want software to get corrupted by financialization. This is why so many people are passionate about open source, it also leads us to the next phase of this battle where software patents are made obsolete because it’s all mathematics and you shouldn’t be able to patent mathematical systems.


I was responding to someone who said that we could "generate" alternatives, so there's still time for you to remove the unnecessarily spiteful downvote.


No, it is not!



Yet, we all know we will!


If this is using MuPDF, beware that they are very rude and assume ill will! See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40096211


That comment you linked to is yours, and flagged.

It reads to me like you are still carrying a grudge about one rude interaction. I read that whole thread and I don't want to see it repeated here.


That is not true. Moon Jae-in (opposite party) was not impeached and is still alive and well.


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