For those of you who may read "The Red Pill" and are familiar with its terms and have incorporated it in their worldview. I am here to tell you that that subreddit is actually "blue pilled" and omits a key fact about dating and sexual marketplace which is the following:
Facial attractiveness trumps everything else. Women prefer beta guys with a better face to alpha guys with an unattractive face.
(Link goes to a thread titled "You need a teardrop-shaped inner canthus to be facially aesthetic. No excuses!" and apparently written in all seriousness).
No, genuinely funny. Thinks on their feet, actually holds frame. People who are bad at dating hear the same line delivered by someone attractive and unattractive and think the difference is their face: in reality, the attractive person is comfortable, playful and not concerned with one interaction not working out. The unattractive person is uncomfortable, is concerned about whether a single stranger finds them attractive or not.
My gym has plenty of men with amazing physiques who are absolutely awful with women. It also has a pudgy guy who's amazing.
Its a fair question. Something like disciplined stage presence.
Its kind of TRP dog whistle-ish, which is neither good nor bad.
Can you perform your joke or pickup line or whatever in an appealing manner with confidence and consistently without giggling or overreacting to your audience facial expression or generally looking anxious.
If you abstract out all the sex and the psychological rationalization behind it, its something like the audience would not find you flaky if you were presenting at a professional meeting. The presenter might be wrong or the audience might be completely uninterested, but they would describe it as presented well, by most common standards of presenting well. There's generally a side dish of smooth recovery from minor bumps in the road, which some people would consider a self evident part of the definition of "presenting well".
Originally, way back, the concept comes from the mix of the mental side of disciplined holding your frame of mind and the physical side of maintaining a strong frame when ballroom dancing or lifting.
Huh, your comment made me realize a new aspect of why I utterly failed at Tinder when I tried it, and have much better luck in real life. I guess I'm far more confident and funny than attractive! Makes sense.
Sure, people fuck it up all the time. You don't want to be 'entertaining' funny, you want to be charming - you want to seen sexually, not as if you're there to amuse someone.
That's the thing about real life interaction. She's now making a decision with more information than your photo and there's no lineup of photos next to you.
The articles point is that the longer you know someone, the less their attractiveness matters. I suspect that slope starts rather quickly.
Exactly this. I can't find sources now, but women prioritize attractive face over body. If I had to speculate on a current trend I'd say skinny guys with feminine faces make the most attractive combination for women.
Not really. Attractiveness of face is all about symmetry and proportion. For example: If you have a huge nose or a massive protruding mole you'll never be attractive no matter your body composition. I'm sure an algorithm could be (already is) composed to verify attractiveness of face.
> If you have a huge nose or a massive protruding mole you'll never be attractive no matter your body composition
BULLSHIT. I was very self conscious of my big nose but Asian women love it! The first time I heard 'I like your nose! it's so nice' I couldn't believe it.
I had to turn off notifications for Tinder because it's so active after 11:00PM.
> If you have a huge nose you'll never be attractive
Many male models have huge or badly broken noses (see Stone Island campaigns for the latter). They're still considered handsome. I guy who lived on my street has an extraordinary long face, and he's a now D&G model.
Exercising and having good skin puts you in front of 90% of men. I'd agree algorithm might say smaller noses are, on the whole, more handsome, but you can still be considered handsome having a huge nose.
Since when is symmetry relevant? I thought it has been sufficiently shown that symmetry plays no role for beauty. Pretty sure fitness has a bigger impact on beauty than features you cannot change without surgery.
Not only symmetry, but also the proportions. People are evolutionary wired to use symmetry and proportions of faces and bodies to estimate health and survival/reproduction "value". This is not the only factor, of course, but a huge one.
I remember in biology we learned that symmetry is an indicator of good genetics, so it makes sense that we are biased to symmetry since higher fitness/survivability.
Facial attractiveness trumps everything else. Women prefer beta guys with a better face to alpha guys with an unattractive face.
There is no game, there is only face.
That and not having aspergers syndrome.