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I feel like Kagi was just asking "Impress us" and OP misunderstood the assignment by actually building a solid project and handling edge cases that no one cared about.

Anyways thanks for writing this up OP, it was an interesting read and I am a Kagi customer so I liked learning about them.


they actually did not... the original requirement said "a minimal, terminal-inspired email client" and "take inspiration from existing terminal email tools like aerc, mutt". This is nowhere near them, not even close.

Not sure why OP makes no mention of this in their blog post - perhaps they thought those parts were unimportant? In which case I am not surprised at the results.


"Email client can either be in the terminal (i.e. a TUI) or a web app"

yes? I am not sure how this contradicts to what I said?

You can absolutely have terminal-inspired web apps, see http://www.coboloncogs.org/


If Kagi was asking to impress them, then the OP understood perfectly because that is not what they said.

I agree on all points.

The project was well made, but my read on it was that they wanted to be shown something interesting. Even if it wasn't as well made of polished, I got the impression they would have preferred something "fun" or imaginative.


Imagine your Jira card at the job:

- Title: Make something fun for the customer.

Then your performance review:

- Manager: We cannot tell you why, but you failed at your job.


American parenting does not value boredom anywhere near enough. It's a valuable part of being a smart human. Society needs to value boredome more highly.

As a parent I highly value boredom. At ages 6 and 8 electronics limited to 30 mins per day.


Parent of 5 and 3 year-olds here - absolutely. We don't own a tablet and the most my kids really know how to do is turn the TV to a show or two they like (relax, everyone, I'll be teaching them how to use tech when their lives actually warrant the need). They're wonders at restaurants, can sit there for an hour plus without any screens and they're great - hell, I went to a pretty nice spot for my birthday recently that took 2.5 hours and they crushed it, we all had an absolute blast.

Our phones stay in my wife's home office during the day, since we want to model not staring at them.

They come to my work sometimes, and I've had a few people express how they're impressed when they watch them entertain themselves, and my response is always, "They have to learn how to be bored".


Parent of a 5 year old here, and it sounds like we run a similar household. I am very proud of my daughter for being able to go an hour or 2 anywhere with little external stimulation. She engages in the adult conversation, and often makes interesting observations which we enjoy chatting about. She never asks for a screen when we are out anywhere.

I am often surprised when we are out at restuarants and cafes, and other kids that age are staring into tablets with their headphones on. How are these kids going to develop adult social skills when they are oblivious to them going on around them?

Also car journeys. We enjoy things like playing I-spy, and singing along to songs together. I would hate it so much if my kid was glued to a tablet watching stuff.

Boredom is very very important for a childs development. I feel that the reduction in kids boredom time is a big reason we are experiencing epidemics of mental health revolving around concepts such as FOMO and personal image.


Wonderful! At the risk of sounding like I'm tooting my own horn, that 2.5-hour meal I referenced was bookended by a 2-hour drive each way. Just a bit of music in the car, but plenty of great conversation with our family and my parents - observing the world around them, asking questions, singing along, being silly together. It was a tremendously cup-filling afternoon/evening with nary a screen in sight.

I love your point about social interactions, too - we'll tiptoe around certain subjects occasionally, but for the most part I love when they (especially my oldest, but only because my youngest is still coming out of the toddler phase) listen in and ask questions and try to understand what we're chatting about. It always reminds me of being a kid and thinking it was super cool to be able to hang with the grown-ups and learn about whatever they're chatting about.


Man you motherfuckers are smart.

This is pretty cool


I cannot for the life of me get DALL-E to draw a mean picture of trump. So.. I think this hack is not working.


I'm sold, thank you will install it.


This project is amazing! I been messing with it all day today, I'm in love.

Thank you to the developers, you really have a keen eye for detail.


I think it’s pretty good, and it’s good to hear they’re working on better deploys and UX. But the big thing to note is backups. There just isn’t a good way to use this with critical data without bolting on some kind of custom backup solution. I am always terrified the hetzner server with all my random stuff will die before I get around to implementing a solution.


We are also working on backups. The only big problem with backups for non DB Containers is that they need to be stopped to ensure data consistency, so we are looking at some filesystem level options but not sure yet.


Good luck! For what it’s worth I hope you prioritize this above everything else.


I am glad you like it. If you have any problems or questions, just let me know.


> Debugging

I spent a lot of time learning how to use the debugger in storm. I still found the "feedback loop" to be slower than just dumping and eventually stopped using the debugger. dd() is just so fast, and that is all I care about, fixing the bug as fast as possible.


Technically reddit and xdotcom are competitors, so this makes financial sense.


A percentage of them are.


wber.org


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