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European countries aren’t known for strong privacy against the state. There are exceptions, but the EU’s “privacy rights” are almost exclusively against corporations.

American privacy, by contrast, is almost exclusively focused on state surveillance.

There are holes, the biggest being that foreigners on foreign soil have no privacy rights. Nor do the dead.

But I’m not impressed with the “rights” Europeans have against state surveillance.

Europeans aren’t willing to spend the money to do massive spy programs. Ok, fine. But that’s not the same as having civil liberties opposition.

Switzerland has a reputation, good and bad, for strong privacy. But that’s not the norm.


I read an article that dug into public GDPR cases, which is a surprisingly small set, and it explained they have had a near zero impact on the massive advertising and data broker industry. They mostly just have a large back log of legal cases against large US companies like Google which occasionally result in fines - but even that moves very very slowly and has little impact on their global business models. They do also occasionally charged a few smaller European companies a few grand for violations.

The key thing is that companies like Google and Meta run giant ad networks, there's many thousands of companies buying ads then collecting data in their own systems and reselling it.

The privacy issues of data retention on Google/Meta/etc social and SaaS platforms is something to care about but it is only a small piece of the puzzle of data privacy.

Ads will remain a major business for the foreseeable future as nobody is going to pay $5/m to use Instagram with no data collection.


Even if one paid monthly, why would they actually stop the data collection?

Well YouTube offers a no ads version for money. I personally don’t see a realistic alternative to ad supported social media so you’d have to ask someone who does think that.

I’ve read the GDPR has zero impacts on national security/law enforcement. It applies weakly to other state functions.

I’ve also seen cases where GDPR is used against religious groups that have a strong religious justification for keeping lists of believers. Think Orthodox Jews and the Catholic Church, which regard family trees and baptismal certificates as semi-sacred. And kept on paper or scrolls.

Not sure what to think about that. Regulating a sacred scroll like a database table seems wrong.


The reason why we're not keeping lists of which people believe what religion, is because such lists were extremely useful to the nazis in WW2 when exterminating Jewish people.

> Think Orthodox Jews

Pretty sure they would remember why this is the case.

> Regulating a sacred scroll like a database table seems wrong.

There is actually no perceivable or material difference between something that is considered "sacred" and that which is not. It really hinges on whether some subset of some splinter of some religion considers it so.

But, I'm not familiar with these cases you mention, I think there's some details left out that should matter. The really weird thing to me, is that a sports club can keep a list of members easily (yes they need to abide by the GDPR but it's not hard), and if somehow a "religious group" can't manage that level of organization, I don't think their opinion on what objects are considered "sacred" should count for much, either.

Another issue is that "religious groups" can have a different opinion of who are their members and who they get to keep data on, and it doesn't matter whether those records are "sacred" or not, according to the GDPR it is not the "religious group", but the people whose data is being kept whose opinion counts. It would be ridiculous otherwise. I had to email a Church to stop tracking me (which happens if you're baptized as a baby), and that should be my choice, it would be insane if they could claim "yeah tough luck, but our records are sacred".


I’m thinking more paper and scrolls.

Not to mention things like tombstones or the occasional name carved into buildings - usually related to donors.

The media matters: an email list, a scroll, a name carved into stone, and a tattoo are quite different things.

I feel uncomfortable drawing clear lines, but I feel equally uncomfortable with other people drawing clear lines.


> There is actually no perceivable or material difference between something that is considered "sacred" and that which is not. It really hinges on whether some subset of some splinter of some religion considers it so.

What? To many people, the Bible is just a book. To Christians its sacred. This doesn't mean it's immutable (the original Bible wasn't in English after all), it just means it's important to them.

For the records, the records themselves could be sacred, but the practical implications of them are not sacred. But if Catholics have a sacred record of everyone who had been baptized at a church, then that should be different from their mailing list. God did not instruct the chrich to email everyone who was ever baptized there. Plus, at some point in the church's age, there will be more dead people on the list of people who were baptized than alive people. It doesn't make sense to send an email blast to more dead people than alive, so they must trim the mailing list every so often.


Tracking you in what ways?

Thanks.


Not “nobody” - just not as many people they’re value-extracting from now. So why change?

I think the US basically sees DMA, GDPR, etc as a tariff

It’s definitely made browsing the open web a worse experience. There should be global opt in/out.

There was, the ad agencies either ignored it, or worse used it as an additional signal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track


> There should be global opt in/out.

They should not be. That there is people willing to give their data to big corporations and foreign countries by extension puts everybody at risk. It is a matter of national security and it should not be allowed, no opt in option.


Woof. How about we let users decide, thanks.

> Woof. How about we let users decide, thanks.

Are they deciding with full understanding of what does it mean to accept such terms or are they just "accepting" to stop being bothered with pop ups.

The industry loves to give people "a choice" when they know that the average user can be coerced to accept anything.

That is not a real choice, and it should be illegal. User profiling is a crime and should be treated as such.


Companies made browsing the web a bad experience, not GDPR.

This sentiment is so widespread I'm starting to wonder if it's astroturfed by anti-GDPR lobbying.


Yeah that’s me, I’m funded by the anti-GDPR lobby. Still waiting on my check.

You could merely be convinced by one. That is sadly an unpaid position though.

But more seriously, this discussion has come up so many times on this site, that I could instantly find myself talking about it a handful of times at least:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45669399 (go up-parent a few times if more context is needed)

And that doesn't even go into whether sites actually need to ask for cookie consent at all if they aren't collecting user data outside of functional necessity (they don't).


Plenty of high-school logic level libertarians got convinced by corporation lobbying to undue regulation too

If you’re going to be condescending at least spell check your comments.

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> Lately the EU Commission came up with a plan to create an inventory of every single valuable items owned by every single EU citizen: from Magic The Gathering and Pokemon cards to jewelry/heirloom, paintings, gold and silver coins/bars, cryptocurrencies coins, watches, cars, boats, etc. Anything with some value: would go in the inventory. >The European Parliament asked the question: "Can you guarantee us this will never ever be used as a basis to confiscate these items?" to which the European Commission answered: "No, we cannot guarantee that".

Excuse me for not taking this at face value but this sounds like disinformation. Where did you get that from?


After quickly googling, it seems that the plans do not go as far as they make them out to be. The things to be catalogued are only those relevant in the fight against money-laundering. That's hardly "full commie style inventory of every single item with any value".

Links (in German, unfortunately): - https://dpa-factchecking.com/germany/240812-99-93247/ - https://www.money-coaching.de/politik-und-meinung/eu-vermoeg... - https://creditanstalt.co.at/2025/10/08/vermoegensregister-in...


> And it's obvious that either taxation of confiscation is the end goal.

And? Money is, and has always been, the government's stuff, the rest of us use it because it is helpful stuff, it is helpful stuff only to the extent that some government maintains it (and when they don't maintain it correctly it stops being useful, see all examples of hyperinflation). There's a reason the Bible says "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's".

I've seen a flat that was funded by the sale of an inherited stamp collection which was valued at £1 by the tax people. When I saw the tax statement, I thought someone must have made a mistake, then the rules were explained to me and I thought it was madness.


I mean, it is very useful to keep in mind that for any question of 'can you guarantee that X government system won't be used for Y in the future' the answer is 'no', because the government is what makes the rules. That would hopefully work to prevent X being built, but I think it's better than pretending that it's possible to guarantee Y won't happen.

This is just actual straight up bullshit. Either you’re starting this misinformation campaign, or yourself gullible enough to just be repeating it.

This is pattern for this user.

Is it 128 gb ram or vram?

It's unified memory so up to ~120 GB can be used as VRAM.

Was that written by AI? It sounds like AI, spends lots of time summarizing other posts, and has no listed author. My AI alarm is going off.

Ars was caught recently using AI to write articles when the AI hallucinated about a blogger getting harassed by someone using AI agents. The article quoted his blog and all the quotes were nonsense.

Even if something is AI generated the author, and the editor, should at least attempt to read back the article. English isn't my native language, so that obviously plays in, but very frequently I find that articles I struggle to read are AI generated, they certainly have that AI feel.

It would be interesting to run the numbers, but I get the feeling that AI generated articles may have a higher LIX number. Authors are then less inclined to "fix" the text, because longer word makes them seem smarter.


"Should" and "will" are completely different things. My kids "should" brush their teeth every night without me having to tell them. But they won't.

Sounds like you're suggesting an RFC for journalists and editors :-)

Yeah, wow. Definitely setting off my AI summary alarm.

Yeah nearly certainly.

Wasn’t London a hot bed of plague?

No more so than anywhere else. The primary reason was Oxbridge blocked the attempts at forming universities elsewhere and the early centralisation of state authority aided them in this. There were several other universities in England in the middle ages but none survive. Stamford is one. Northampton founded in 1261 but was banned in 1265 due to a mix of its patron having become an enemy of the King and Oxford supporters taking advantage of it. When the local polytechnic wanted to become a uni in the early 2000s they had to specifically request it be repealed.

I was hoping AMD would keep making gaming cards, now that NVIDIA is an AI company. Somebody has to, right?

They have their APUs, as does Intel. I guess that, for gaming, they are adequate.

Nowadays, all you need is Vulkan 1.2 compliance and Linux to run most of Steam's library. A lot of AI-oriented hardware is usable for gaming.

At overpriced retail prices while the AI companies get their sweet deals. Hell no. Personal computing is being destroyed.

That's news to me. I just bought a 1080p gaming card for $50 a few weeks ago.

Made me think of the ETF.

This is the sort of thing employers are failing on. They sign contracts that assume employees are going to be logging in and asking questions directly.

But if I don’t have a url for my IDE (or whatever) to call, it isn’t useful.

So I use Ollama. It’s less helpful, but ensure confidentiality and compliance.


When you are C-suite, every comment you make is a legal statement. The big concern (usually) is misleading shareholders.


> every comment you make is a legal statement

Every comment people can prove you made.

They learned putting it in email isn't ideal, for that reason.

https://www.reuters.com/article/technology/steve-jobs-told-g...

I'm sure these days when Apple and Google want to set up this sort of clearly illegal deal, their CEOs meet in person, or at least use phone/Signal.


That sort of "ABC" simplicity is just good rhetoric.


You’ve correctly hit the atonement v redemption distinction! That’s something few English speakers could do!


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