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(edit: I'm most likely wrong)

You got it backwards, can't use claude if you ARE doing business with DoD.

Presumably AWS/GCP don't care, its up to the end customer to comply. Not like GCP KYC asks if you work with DoD.


AWS/GCP/Azure all do business with the DoD and at least AWS and Azure use Claude a decent amount internally. AWS’s Kiro tool (which is used internally instead of Claude Code) relies entirely on Claude models.

This is almost certainly going to be rolled back, because I guarantee the DoD isn’t going to stop doing business with the hyper scalers, and the hyper scalers aren’t going to stop doing business with Anthropic.


I don't think he got it backwards, at least if Hegseth's statement is accurate. AWS, GCP, etc. all do business with DoD. If they, as DoD contractors, are no longer allowed to do business with Anthropic, then presumably they have to stop re-selling or hosting Anthropic's models to anyone.

Ah, true. Well then, what makes GCP/AWS more money? DoD contracts or Claude resell fees? They could drop DoD though I guess I see how this will go...

DoD for sure. It's also much more stable income then reselling AI.

Does gcp have anything to do with Claude? AWS is the one that has to choose, if AWS picks Anthropic then GCP get all of the DOD. And then google also gets to provide Gemini to the DOD. Thats a nice chunk of change.

>> at least if Hegseth's statement is accurate

Oh you tender babes, trying to logic the meaning of what the lieutenant of the biggest crime syndicate in the world means with his words, as if this was a well thought-out strategy... it's a shakedown; it would make more sense to ask "at least if Hegseth is sober..."


If I had to bet, there will be some kind of face-saving climbdown by the end of next week. But all I can do right now is read the words on the page.

So GitHub Copilot will remove Anthropic as an LLM provider, I suppose?

Agree with other reply. I don’t think it’s backward. No they said any commercial activity. Does not feel like a stretch that commercial activity includes reselling api usage.

Agreed it's not really good signal (many sampling biases) but user count is not relevant, most money is from heavy API users. 900M users with free or cheap subscription are nothing compared to even 10k heavy API users.

On the other hand, big users don't use openrouter. At $work we have our own routing logic.


Revocation lists can be distributed.

Yes, but they still originate somewhere, and if that source goes offline, you're still at risk of accepting stolen credentials.

Yes, but under the assumption that downtime is typically short (a few hours), that small risk seems better than a foreign nation state actor being able to block essential services like identifying with healthcare, or sending transactions.

For corporate art it is. Nobody draws memphis out of passion.

The real victims here are going to be the graphic designers who worked for firework importers.

Ha, I already wondered about all the obviously AI labels of last year's lineup.

I'm seeing more and more AI video memes and they are getting really good. Still just bunch of short clips, long shots are not working well enough, but typical Hollywood movies have few second cuts anyway so this is almost good enough to make a marvel fanfic.

I don't like this way of putting it, it's good the github API makes this easy as that makes it an useful. Should not try to imply this should be restricted just because of some bad actors. It's just going to annoy legit users and the bad ones will scrape anyway.

I'm just stating a fact, not implying anything. It's the good old saying with the sharp knife, it can be used for good and bad.

Ok sorry I guess I read too much into it.

OK so make the warning more annoying. Have a security quiz. Cooldown period of one day to enable. Require unlock via adb connected to laptop.

There are alternative solutions if the true goal is maintaining user freedom while protecting dumb users. But that is not the true goal of the upcoming changes.


> Require unlock via adb connected to laptop.

Fine, just:

- Don't reset it every 5 days / 5 hours / 5dBm blip in Wi-Fi strength, because this pretty much defeats end-user automation, whether persistent or event-driven. This is the current situation with "Wireless Debugging", otherwise cool trick for "rootless root", if it only didn't require being connected to Wi-Fi (and not just a Wi-Fi, but the same AP, breaking when device roams in multi-AP networks).

- Don't announce the fact that this is on to everyone. Many commercial vendors, including those who shouldn't and those who have no business caring, are very interested in knowing whether your device is running with debugging features enabled, and if so, deny service.

Unfortunately, in a SaaS world it's the service providers that have all the leverage - if they don't like your device, they can always refuse service. Increasingly many do.


Would that satisfy most commenters here?

Prediction: Android will roll out a flow for “experienced users” that they promised in November with “in the coming months” (https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/11/android-de...), which will allow “experienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isn't verified”. And even then people will still complain Google is being too controlling by making the warnings too scary / the process too onerous, etc. (I don't expect installing apps from source via adb connected to laptop to go away!)


Batteries will be in bad shape.

Can we do 2010s phones with 2020s battery tech and modems please?


'replaceable battery'

"chart of phones with replaceable batteries": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47099020

it is very difficult to find good (as in "good condition") battery for a 5+ old gadget. even if you find original one - it could be expired and DoA. but more often you get "compatibles" which die in 3-6 months.

He didn't add a clause, he replaced their entire declaration with a single clause of his choice. At least that is how I read it.

I can highly recommend buying these printed in the "bible style" binding with finger cutouts, ribbon bookmark and everything.

https://nostarch.com/gtfo3


I'll seriously consider this, thanks. The issue is not the price, but physical space.

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