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Almost like its live training.


My buddy who used to get in a lot of fight was constantly breaking his hands punching dudes. It ev3ntually became a running joke, ala the song 'the winner'.


But even at the time, most germans were not nazis.


Not most I think... At the time there were some


Germans who supported nazism were elected by german citizens by a democratic vote. Nazis came to power in a democratic system. Millions of germans voted for them.


Not entirely, the elections were influenced by considerable street violence where people in unfavorable places were threatened and beaten.

> Nazis came to power in a democratic system.

Actually, the constitution was broken. Also actual move to take complete power was parliamentary vote where brownshirts came to the room and surrounded it. It was, again, literal threat of violence.

Like, yes, nazi had a lot of support, but democratic is not exactly how they gain complete power.


I wasn't there, so I don't know who was threatened by who. There are a lot of sources that do support the claim that no law was broken, and that judges could challenge the nazi agenda. But they didn't. Were they bought, intimidated, convinced? It's not really my job to prove it.


Literal historical books written by historians describe these events in details.

> There are a lot of sources that do support the claim that no law was broken,

Not really, there are not. Most sources just simply do not go into details.

> and that judges could challenge the nazi agenda. But they didn't. Were they bought, intimidated, convinced?

In the actual stage I am writing about, no they could not oppose anything. Violent crack down on any political opposition happened right after takeover of power. The first nazi victims were pro-democratic and left wing politicians or sympathisers.

Moreover, lower government was overfilled by ex-soldiers, per law. That made them biased toward whoever they perceived patriotic and generally right wing.

> It's not really my job to prove it.

No body is asking you to prove it.


> Not really, there are not. Most sources just simply do not go into details.

The question is do such details even matter. Even Stalin's communism can be disregarded if we'll start detailing it out: we can arrive at the conclusion that it was not real communism, therefore communism is good.

> The first nazi victims were pro-democratic and left wing politicians or sympathisers.

And not communists? Unless you think communism is leftwing and pro-democratic, I know there are people who think this way.


So it was just a regular ordinary political party, with a few extremist agendas in their campaign platform.

Rose to dominance doing whatever it takes, not entirely by popular demand.

Used a political machine to leverage growing new mass-media availability, to craft a cult-of-personality whose rhetoric over the media creates a feedback loop, empowering the cult to grow, simply in blind support of the figurehead. The followers gain a sense of belonging, and are constantly reinforced and assured they need to follow their idol's wishes, wherever that may lead. Ending up following way beyond the extent which could be in the citizens' best interest.

Another day, another misguided political party, and their attention-seeking media-exaggerated influencer acting as if they possess leadership ability.


They lied, didn't implement most of their program except the racist and nationalist parts, and still weren't the majority party in the end. The bourgeoisie, as usual, when in front of the choice to govern with fascists or socialists/union leaders, will always (almost always) choose the fascists. The only time they didn't was because they saw what happened in Germany and Italy a few years prior (it didn't end well either, but at least Spain can say they didn't choose Franco).


> didn't implement most of their program except the racist and nationalist parts

So if they would implement the other parts of the program, then the existence of the "racist and nationalist" part would be all fine?

I mean, Germany had a lot of profit from the wars anyway. The construction of Autobahns, for example, was heavily accelerated during Nazi rule, in order to help to move nazi tanks across the country. I don't recall anyone complaining about autobahns today.


> So if they would implement the other parts of the program, then the existence of the "racist and nationalist" part would be all fine?

I did not say that. Forgot "anticommunist" though in the list.

The racist part of their program was actually not their main point, and it was as racist as all non-communist parties, in most western countries (the Front Populaire was probably the less racist of all, and it was still pretty racist). Germans did not vote for Nazis because they were particularly racists.

The nationalistic part might have been a reason they caught some vote, but the true reason they got 33% of the vote was because they would "save the economy" by unspecified means, and remove the communist party, which pushed small business owners, landlords/slumlords and well as big land owners in their arms.

The Soviet-directed communists (not all communists, but all German elected communists) did not help their case, being droned around by Moscow to do stupid shit (They also shat the bed in Spain. Better to have as enemies than as allies to be frank).

Still, Nazi only got 33%, it wasn't a majority. They they did a coup, and the rest is well known, but they absolutely did not have a majority: 33% of the voting population, with most of those convinced by populist lies about economics and moral panics.


Wikipedia tells me that they got 44% and had the ability to form a coalition (so, a like-minded other party was there to support them). One can argue that this isn't the majority, but I guess this is open to interpretation. Also I know that Germans didn't support Nazism in order to build gas chambers, but rather because they wanted to have their country fixed in the first place, but enabling degenerates to fix something by any means seems like a degenerate action to me.


A suprising symphony of perfectly timed coincidinces even if you do buy the suicide. I don't find either theory to pass the smell test.


The real conspiracy is how the media was unable to discuss either critically, leading skeptics to become belivers that something, sinister or benign, was going on.


Conflating anti-israel sentiment with anti-semitism is either disingenious, or acknowledging and supporting the rampant ethnonationalism within isreal. Neither are appropriate for discussion here, no matter my thoughts on the matter. This whole artile is predicated on a bad faith argument.


Siloing it back to big tech just creates the same problem again, because they have no incentive to keep it open.


It's not siloed, the problem becomes one of trusting Microsoft with your address data. Then them verifying it correctly (which they won't) Then on maintainer checking if they're giving ownership to the right person.

And just like everyone else, these have been compromised before.


Thats, odd. I have met countless friends and aquaintances on flights. Maybe you are signalling that you have no interest in conversing.


The entire point of the article is that people try to talk to the author, even though she is giving a very strong signals that she is not interested.


This is the nuremburg defense. Might want to rethink it.


I re-thought it, and I stand by my arguments.

Decision makers should be the ones punished for making decisions. As simple as that.


The grateful dead figured it out in the 60s. Noise cancelling. Wire up 2 mics, with the wires reversed on one, set them in the same axis, paralell, but an inch or 2 apart, talk into only one of them.


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