These paid offerings geared toward software development must be a hell of a lot "smarter" than the regular chatbots. The amount of nonsense and bad or outright wrong code Gemini and ChatGPT throw at me lately is off the charts. I feel like they are getting dumber.
Yes they are, the fact that the agents have full access to your local project files makes a gigantic difference.
They do *very* well at things like: "Explain what this class does" or "Find the biggest pain points of the project architecture".
No comparison to regular ChatGPT when it comes to software development. I suggest trying it out, and not by saying "implement game" but rather try it by giving it clear scoped tasks where the AI doesn't have to think or abstract/generalize. So as some kind of code-monkey.
I don’t understand why we are getting these software products that want to have vendor lock in when the underlying system isn’t being improved. I prefer Claude code right now because it’s a better product . Gemini just has a weird context window that poisons the rest of the code generated (when online) ChatGPT Codex vs Claude I feel that Claude is a better product and I don’t use enough tokens to for Claude Pro at $100 and just have a regular ChatGPT subscription for productivity tasks .
> I don’t understand why we are getting these software products that want to have vendor lock in when the underlying system isn’t being improved.
I think it's clear now that the pace of model improvements is asymptotic (or at least it's reached a local maxima) and the model itself provides no moat. (Every few weeks last year, the perception of "the best model" changed, based on basically nothing other than random vibes and hearsay.)
As a result, the labs are starting to focus on vertical integration (that is, building up the product stack) to deepen their moat.
> I think it's clear now that the pace of model improvements is asymptotic
As much as I wish it were, I don't think this is clear at all... it's only been a couple months since Opus 4.5, after all, which many developers state was a major change compared to previous models.
The models are definitely continuing to improve; it's more of a question of whether we're reaching diminishing returns. It might make sense to spend $X billion to train a new model that's 100% better, but it makes much less sense to spend $X0 billion to train a new model that's 10% better. (Numbers all made up, obviously.)
I absolutely despise Discord for anything more than a couple of friends chatting. It is the worst way to have discussions with a large group of people that I can think of because you have to wade through so many junk messages to read anything of interest.
Discord can be great when people treat it properly. That is, treat it as IRC for the modern age, rather than a replacement for forums.
Just like in IRC, you probably don't care about most messages. You don't need to be in every conversation. But it can be a great way to just jump into a live conversation or start a new one.
Just like IRC. Except 1 giant server, 1 owner logging everything. Don't ask how it sustains itself though. It still doesn't. People let their guard down in such lax environments and many even run their entire business comms on an unencrypted app as a result too. People should know better.
In a lot of ways, this is a major regression as far as security and redundancy is concerned.
There's also the good old saying: Don't build your castle in somebody else's Kingdom. Bot developers definitely learned that recently. I don't have a lot of pity for bot developers though as many are truly, in fact, scraping data and doing other undocumented things with it (Spy Pet wasn't and won't be the only one). All I'm going to say on the matter!
> Discord can be great when people treat it properly. That is, treat it as IRC for the modern age, rather than a replacement for forums.
For certain needs, like support, forums are abysmal too. See Unraid as an example. Got a problem? Drill through ten different 20-page long discussions with no clear answer.
I agree modern Windows sucks for the average consumer, with all the dark patterns and icky stuff, but if you are on this forum and technically inclined enough to install Linux, you can just disable all the bad parts of Windows and get a rock solid OS with perfect compatibility. Unpopular opinion, I know, but that's how I view it.
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