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I haven't read his book, so I don't know how much of a kook or grifter I would judge this guy to be, and I'm always dubious about things, but I try to remember that even kooks and grifters sometimes (not always!) have genuinely useful things in what they're saying. They might not be the best person to say it, and their suggestions might not always be the best way to make use of the useful bits. But just because someone is trying to make money from spreading their message doesn't make it all BS.

(I think I'm mostly agreeing with you.)


I had a similar experience, with a slightly different approach (mouth tape and a nose dilator) but seemingly similar outcome. I like that you did it just through exercises with no mechanical intervention. Inspiring.

Thank you! I saw you mentioned mewing in your comment, they teach you that in some pranayama exercises as well and I agree it’s a great addition. It feels unnatural at first but when you get used to it, it’s almost like bracing your palate with your tongue allows you to pull air in through your nose more smoothly and with more power.

I’ve found this is all really worth learning, even if you don’t have sleep apnea. I feel more clear headed and energized when I can breath through my nose now.


That's fascinating, I just did some reading on this - I had not known that the basic technique of "mewing" is very similar if not identical to something that's been practiced in yoga for thousands of years. That in itself doesn't speak to its effectiveness necessarily but on the surface it's a different way to look at it than as just a modern fad.

Regardless, it doesn't cost anything to try, seems no danger in it and it seems logical that it could help.


>basic technique of "mewing" is very similar if not identical to something that's been practiced in yoga for thousands of years

Can you elaborate more on this? I also assume by "mewing" you mean putting the tip of your tongue on your hard palette right behind your upper incisor, and letting the rest of the tongue suction against the hard (and soft) palette. Surprisingly for something that seems to be so "popular" in "broscience" I find it hard to find any canonical definition or technique.


Instead of a mouth tape get one of those moldable plastic mouth guard things from amazon. And mold the hole shut.

I had bad sleep apnea until last year, sleeping 8-9 hours a night and usually feeling tired in the morning.

As of the last 12 months it seems to be heald, after I used mouth tape and a nasal dilator consistently for 30 nights in a row. I highly recommend trying this, it was quite cheap (~$20) and the change seems to have been permanent. I used 3m micro-pore tape that doesn't tear the facial hair, and the nasal dilator I used was called "woody knows", though there are many brands that may work just as well. I barely snore anymore where I used to be a raging snorer according to those in the know and my own audio recordings of myself. Most importantly, I only need about 7 to 7.5 hours of sleep now and I will wake up feeling well rested most days. I can also breathe exclusively through my nose now where before I could not. I can take very big breaths through just the nose and do this now when exercising.

I don't think it's all perfect though as I still often breathe through my mouth. I'm starting to wear the mouth tape at night again as an experiment - it really isn't that annoying.

Relatedly, I recently started looking into "mewing" after a breath-work teacher I took classes with recommended it to me as she has been doing it with good results (improved breathing). It seems related to this as Mew recommends keeping the mouth shut all the time. I intend to try the mewing exercises and see if that helps my breathing further.


From my perspective, your reply supports the article's point.

Yes, the inner and outer circles are paid well. And yes, nothing is completely black and white, there are spectrums in many dimensions. Everything is complex, but it is sometimes helpful to look at something from a perspective other than your own to maybe notice things you don't normally notice, in this case the mass of people that the author calls the "service class" and the "untouchables", and the way they are perceived and [mis]treated by the "higher" classes.

I'm not accusing you of mistreating people in these groups. But you admit you don't know many people in them, and I think the article is valuable in pointing that out.


I was an engineer in the "outer circle" who quit and lived for four months with "untouchables" in a homeless camp.

When I was an engineer I definitely felt the artificial distance between me (a human being) and a large group of other human beings serving me who were treated far worse than me. I did not think of them as lesser people, but the system certainly treated them as such.

When I was homeless I definitely felt the being ignored (or seen as a nuisance) by higher-class people. It's very obvious how people's behavior toward you changes when they see you walk out of a tent camp on the street. Actually, it's not just being ignored when people create artificial complaints about your group to get the police to brutally displace you.

Everything is complex of course, it's not black and white, there are spectrums in many dimensions. IMHO the point is to try looking at things from a new perspective and maybe notice things you didn't notice before, that feel wrong. It helps for people with power to notice things that are wrong, since then they can become impassioned to change things.


> try looking at things from a new perspective

Maybe the folks in the tent camp should consider why passers-by wrinkle their noses.

I remember back when no-smoking signs were just getting started. Smokers used to complain about their right to smoke, forgetting about everyone else's right to breathe fresh air. It's like motorcyclists complaining about noise regulations for the type of muffler they need.


You have an amazing story. Is there some place I could learn more about your journey?


I don't think this applies to division by zero.

But I expect that in general, for most things humans consume, as efficiency has increased, consumption has increased too.


Coal consumption increased steadily since 1865 and is almost at its all time high right now. There was a tiny dip in the last few years, but oil consumption is still increasing.


Google has team offices for some teams. My first year here my team was split in two 5-person offices with doors. For the last year we were in an open office space. Soon we're moving again and some of us will be in team offices again of 3-4 people. I don't know the percentage of team offices vs open offices across the company though.

Also, since moving into our current building they've added sound-resistant walls and barriers in various places which has helped significantly.

(Speaking for myself, as a happy employee.)


Does HN need a top banner saying that it's April 1?


Some places are really beautiful, but would not be less beautiful just because people can enjoy them.

Maybe the solution is to preserve these places until we have relatively cheap tech (like quadcopter drones) that can carry people to some of these places. Allow them to come in only at certain times or whatever so normally the place is still as wild as ever. Or VR connected to drones that people can fly around... there are many possibilities in the not-too-distant future that probably.

But right now the only practical way to make these places accessible is with paved roads so that's what happens.


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