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I keep wondering how the recent 15h outage have affected these eventually consistent systems.

I really hope to see a paper on the effects of it.


Yep, this is definitely that.


I'm glad we are on the same page.


Yea, that resonates!

>I have often wondered why the government doesn't do anything about this. Is the science not clear enough yet?

Government is always on your side!


Why should smarter people be happier? May be happiness lays in a dimension that does not correlate with smarts.


Ukranian, technically.


Some ukr, some rus

> the author of the original Zeus Trojan — Evgeniy Mikhailovich Bogachev, a Russian man who has long been on the FBI’s “Most Wanted” list.


It won't be over until long after AWS resolves it - the outages produce hours of inconsistent data. It especially sucks for financial services, things of eventual consistency and other non-transactional processes. Some of the inconsistencies introduced today will linger and make trouble for years.


Couldn't afford the luxury of reading...


I'd think the feds or individual states should own the machines...


I think it's sloppy wording and rhetoric by the article author. AFAIU most jurisdictions do purchase and own their machines, as opposed to leasing.


But we live in the age where it's normal to buy something, and yet not really own it.

The most egregious example has to be the F-35.

Does the local gov "buying" a voting machine give them total visibility into the software? I am genuinely curious.


> Does the local gov "buying" a voting machine give them total visibility into the software? I am genuinely curious.

No, it doesn't. But there's a wide variety of machines, from comparatively simple, tested-and-true Scantrons to the fancy touch screen Dominion machines with conceptually easier-to-hack software and processes, and plenty of nuance across the board. But I think the author's language is still sloppy, if not downright misleading.

Also, IIRC the purchaser of Dominion has publicly committed to ensuring paper trails for everything, which at least 8 or so years ago was a popular criticism of Dominion machines--what paper receipts it did (or could optionally) produce didn't necessarily provide robust accounting of the overall tabulation system. Beyond being a Trump supporter (which alone says very little about any specific individual), there's no reason to think the new owner would be worse for election integrity than the status quo, and arguably some reason to believe integrity might improve. Only time will tell whether he improves the transparency and integrity of Dominion's products. Though I'm more than a little skeptical, not because of nefarious motives, but just because Dominion's position in the marketplace os providing fancy voting tech. The easiest way to improve integrity might be to just shutdown Dominion's entire voting machine product lineup and tell everybody to move to Scantron paper ballots with hand audits, like California does.


I had some friends who worked in CISA. Had, cause they were fired, RIF'd, early retirement, etc. They have been gutted.

During the Biden campaign, there were a few people doing rudimentary data gathering and election machine investigations. After they announced to their bosses, order came from the top to cease all voting machine research and destroy what they did.

We dont know why the order to cease and destroy was issued. But, yeah. A guess was that the existing players bribe both parties, and bribe was called in.

If you want to snoop more, go look at what Defcon's Election village is doing. Quite a few of those findings were damning.


voting machine security was such a joke as shown by many, and J. Alex Halderman most recently


The ones in my precinct had exposed USB ports accessible to the voter while behind the privacy curtain. There was a lockable door to cover them, but they were left open.

When I pointed it out I was told that it was policy and they couldn't lock them. They didn't even have a key.


Looking at all those steel beams I have only one thought...


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