120 if no major break throughs happen.
150-180 otherwise.
Ignoring fatal accidents.
The average life span of males in my family is 98. Heavily brought down by two accidents (38 & 17). No naturals deaths below 104. I guess genetics are in my favour.
Background:
I've been a IT hiring manager for 20+ years now,
with about 600 hires (and salary negotiations) in total.
About 70% gamedev related, and the other 30% classic IT.
I have tracked all those numbers over the last 20 years.
They are 50-100% higher across the board; And that is base salary on-hire, without bonuses.
A senior developer for 60K?
Show me, and I'll hire 10. Make that 20. On the spot.
Last year I hired a graduate in Bulgaria for 80K/year base(!) salary.
Granted, he was the best of his year, and had some nice side projects.
According to your numbers I should not exist.
I started my career in the 90s, and never earned below 60K/year.
I suspect something might be off with your sample selection.
Or maybe people are just under reporting their numbers.
Not saying you are intentionally misleading, but these numbers just don't compute.
I am saying 90K+ for seniors is what I have seen, and 60K+ for juniors.
"Normal" is a bit hard to define, and there will always be wide deviations,
but the averages, and ranges in that doc just don't match my numbers.
Written offers I got in the last 3 years:
M$ - 140K.
IBM 120K, 160K & 180K.
Amazon 150K
Google 80K & 250K (yes, I know :eyeroll:)
All their salary bands are public.
A lot of the smaller companies pay extremely well too.
And no, not going to give out names, as they are swamped in CVs already.
I am currently at 120K, for 20h per week (2days/3days alternating).
Currently hiring for a small startup,
and everybody I interviewed asked for 100K+, and that is with shares on top.
With beeper actively attacking security critical infrastructure
it's just a question of time until someone pulls out the patriot act
and jails them as terrorists.
This is the post that proves that you never used agile. And nobody you worked with ever used it. Sorry to hear that you have been scammed :(
"Standup is a scheduled management upgrade":
Nope. The manager isn't even there during the standup.
"Planning poker is a useless waste of time so the manager has some false sense of security when something will be done"
Nope. It gives the team a chance to see what's coming to them in the future, and a feeling to guestimate the work needed, so the less experienced people have a better chance to participate in the sprint planning.
"Retrospectives are actually useful, if the manager is out of them."
Yes. Retrospectives are a safe zone, so if your manager even tries to join them something is wrong. They do get the consolidated, actionable items though, and are responsible for helping to fix them.
"The Scrum Master role is made so the owner's son"
The Scrum Master is not a role-job. It's a role of the day, and every member of the team will take their turn.
"The PO role is where the money people..."
Ah. Worked with one bad PO before?
The PO is there to help the team, and highly incentivised to do so.
If he is not doing his job, in answering the questions they have and unblocking their work, the team will leave him hanging dry for a sprint or two, and he is gone.
"Sprint is just a cleverly crafted ploy to make the developers endlessly hurry towards endless micro deadlines, sprint after sprint."
Wow. I see some major depression there.
A sprint gives us the chance to tick a box every few weeks, instead of achieving nothing over years.
"Agile Coach role."
Really? That is a role at your company?
It's amazing what an Agile Coaching consultant can achieve by visiting 2-3 times a year, with an outside perspective.
If they are there full time, and paid like everybody else, they loose the outside perspective, and thus are not a Coach, but something ... weird.
Is Agile the holy grail of perfection?
No.
Is there anything else that gets even close?
Hell no, but if you know a framework that works better let us know.
It's always easy to say "X doesn't work",
the real constructive part is to be able to say "Y works better than X because of Z".
> This is the post that proves that you never used agile. And nobody you worked with ever used it. Sorry to hear that you have been scammed :(
Ah, yes, I've heard that before. I am simply not using the "proper scrum", right? And the agile coach you just happen to know can show us the way, right?
Sorry, but I've been in the industry for 15+ years, last 8 at a senior position (VP of Engineering) and I have not seen places where Agile/Scrum has contributed positively. If so many people are getting Agile and SCRUM wrong (which is a supposedly simple methodology), so much that now has to be an Agile2 version, then let's assign a lot of the blame on the methodology, shall we?
Mind you, I've seen places that were not terrible using Scrum, but it not being terrible had more to do with decent people rather than the methodology. If anything, the framework was dragging the good into the mediocre, and the mediocre and bad stayed mediocre and bad, but with less time.
> Sorry to hear that you have been scammed :(
Nope. As a matter of fact, I think it's you who has been scammed OR actively trying to scam others.
> Nope. The manager isn't even there during the standup.
That's great! The manager is not in the standup! What big level of trust displayed here! If you trust them so much, why do you think it's needed to force them every day, at a specific time, in a specific format, to say what they are doing, and what they did yesterday? We used to do that in kindergarten. If you do trust your devs, you'd encourage them to sync however they want, whenever they want, and in the format that they want and omit sync moments if they see fit.
> Nope. It gives the team a chance to see what's coming to them in the future, and a feeling to guestimate the work needed
Nope. You got it very wrong, but I see where you are coming from, your way of thinking is common in the corporate world. You are considering developer teams like a highly paid black box, who take input from the $$$ people, and convert it to features. That's why you are using the passive voice: "what's coming to them", which shows me everything I needed to know about your way of thinking.
Imagine instead a situation in which the developers actually decide what to do as a team (based on usage stats, vision, own ideas, feedback from clients), without a glorified taskmaster force feeding it to them? In that way of thinking, nothing "comes to people", they control what they work on, their own priorities and their own tasks. Too radical, right?
> and a feeling to guestimate the work needed, so the less experienced people have a better chance to participate in the sprint planning.
Who are we guesstimating the work for? Instead of trying to guess how much time it takes, isn't it more productive to go in depth in each task and have members debate their approaches, and end up coming up with a solution? How is guessing how much it will take relevant to coming up with a good solution?
No, you and I both know that devs are made guessing because other people are afraid that the devs are playing ping pong all day, and want to have a deadline to hold them accountable to.
> The Scrum Master is not a role-job. It's a role of the day...
Great, and now open Linkedin and tell me how many full time Scrum Master positions there are. Thanks.
> If he is not doing his job, in answering the questions they have and unblocking their work, the team will leave him hanging dry for a sprint or two, and he is gone.
How can the least qualified person on the team answer any questions, about anything? It implies the devs don't know their users, they don't know the application, they can't be trusted to talk to clients, and they can't be trusted to make the right technical specifications. How is a PO better than a team of highly trained engineers as a decision maker and unblocker?
The role is just a remnant of the thinking that IT department are these unsightly people who work in the basement and shouldn't be seen/talked to, so we hire a suit to front them as a more eye pleasing alternative, a gatekeeper. Anything a PO can do, a team of devs can do better. Useless role!
> Wow. I see some major depression there. A sprint gives us the chance to tick a box every few weeks, instead of achieving nothing over years.
Interesting, it seems that you believe that if there are no mini-deadlines to put them in order, developers will simply do nothing, or go on a non-tangent for years, playing with languages and prototypes.
How about something that takes 3 weeks but can't be conveniently broken down into smaller chunks? Are you gonna be trembling with shame at the end of the sprint, because you didn't deliver "value"? What would the business say! Outrage!
> That is a role at your company? It's amazing what an Agile Coaching consultant can achieve by visiting 2-3 times a year
Luckily, no. But I've had Agile consultant visiting from time to time, they never contributed with anything but try to sell us their own flavor of Scrum or SAFe or some other garbage methodology. Mind you, this was at the time when half the teams were doing Scrum anyway. But the Agile consultant is like: no, that's not really Scrum, you have to "change minor detail, like length of sprint". And then the next snake oil salesman says the same, ad infinitum.
> Is Agile the holy grail of perfection? No.
That's mildly put. Agile is a steaming pile of trash. Yes.
> Is there anything else that gets even close? Hell no, but if you know a framework that works better let us know.
Yes, I do! If you want a name: "XP", but followed loosely and not religiously.
However, I just made an even better one on the spot, called "JBG" (Just be Good). It postulates the following tenets:
- Hire good people, retain them, build them up and trust them
- Fire/let go of bad people
- No non-technical managers, scrum masters or POs whatever for technical teams, they should consist only of developers
- Continuously improve all your stuff (tests/knowledge/processes/infra/code), in whatever shape/form/directions you want to and however and whenever you want to
I intend to write a book about it, a manifesto, and consult on it!
Quoting Cliff Berg as a source of information?
Cliff Berg?!?!
I could quote a ton of stuff that Cliff said at conference dinners and parties in the last years, but really -- would anybody believe the world is flat?
That guy lost his marbles decades ago.
It's interesting that you can read from every single "agile is dead" rant that the author has abso-elfing-lutely no personal experience whatsoever, and is just using it as click-bait. :sigh:
Probably one of the biggest waste of tax payers money by the police.
Unused cars disintegrate. Literally.
The interest that that parked money could have paid for dozens, if not hundreds of more cars.
They could have just bought newer, better cars when needed.
Don't even get me started on the bad MPG.
I stopped doing (for money) side projects in 2015.
Instead I started to buy solar farms from my yearly xmas bonus.
Invest 40K (10K bonus + 30K loan) -> 6000K/year. Net -- post costs & taxes.
On average the loan was paid off in 6 years (thanks to low interest rates).
From there on it's pure revenue.
Rinse repeat.
Not even accounting for the free tax credits I get out of the investment.
Just doing my planning for the '23 investment.
If I stop doing anything right now
the last loan will be paid off in 2030 (interest rates are up a bit),
and I will be making ~5K/month. Net. "Forever".
I use the time I gained for free work on important projects.
There are quite a few services here that handle everything.
Basically you just say "I have $X", and they say "Ok, the bank will add 3X, which will result in 0.5x revenue per year, and a 2x tax deductible".
And yes, the post cost ROI is around 18%, currently -- not including the tax discounts.
Would you share where is this? I know someone in the US who wanted to do this, but they couldn’t as the power company would pay them less than they would be making.
I guess the problem here is counterparty risk. If the solar farm goes bankrupt, you lost your investment. Also they may be illiquid (hard to sell?).
That is probably why you are investing your bonus, rather than selling everything to go all in. Because apart from the counterparty risk, 15% lifetime yield is pretty good. Obviously there is a threat from unlimited energy scenario like cold fusion, but that is probably 35 years away :-).
Ignoring fatal accidents.
The average life span of males in my family is 98. Heavily brought down by two accidents (38 & 17). No naturals deaths below 104. I guess genetics are in my favour.