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No US based operations targeting foreign or domestic entities? I guess they already have that in house?

we've been talking about GPT-fueled propaganda campaigns on HN since before COVID... so very likely in-house.

Likely in-house for many of the other actors above; this may just be low-hanging fruit, or operations designed to hit specific demographics in specific countries.


Surely the US has already had this in house for at least a decade.

> So what matters to them is lowering fuel consumption.

For many of their cars, I don't think this matters that much to Toyota:

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymake/Toyota2023.shtml

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymake/Toyota2013.shtml


My daily driver is an ‘89 4Runner that gets about the same milage. That sounds bad in this climate, but for 35 years and nearly 300,000 miles I have not had to spend the energy/resources/carbon to build another vehicle and dispose of this one.

From my experiences Toyota tends to over engineer on the reliability side rather than optimizing for fuel efficiency. It’s all trade offs. You can tune the engine that may not be as fuel efficient but it may last longer.


According to random online sources, that is around 150 metric tons of CO2e and it takes around 10 metric tons for a vehicle to be manufactured.


https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40476904 (or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism ) seem much better

see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roderick_Spode#The_Black_Short...

Viewing themselves as the saviours (an end which justifies many many means) of some granfalloon is a common theme.

In one of Benigni's movies, a group of italian Fascists are discussing a new german fascist textbook, in which one of the word problems says something like: a cripple costs the state so much per year, a cretin so much, etc. How much could the state save if n thousands of cripples and m thousands of cretins were eliminated? "But that's horrible", cries an italian woman, "making children do algebra, at such a young age!"

I suspect a true fascist (although a true economist might send a false positive?) would not understand why the woman's objection is generally thought to be gallows-humorous.


As if the tech economy in the US is unique for some reason


It kind of is?


I think that was the joke.


Right to who? To me, the voice sounds like an over enthusiastic podcast interviewer. Whats wrong with wanting computers to sound like what people think computers should sound like?


It sounds VERY California. "Its going great!" "Nice choice" "Whats up with the..." all within 10 seconds.

(not that this is the most important thing about the announcement at all. Just an aside)


It understands tonal language, you can tell it how you want it to talk, I have never seen a model like that before. If you want it to talk like a computer you can tell it to, they did it during the presentation, that is so much better than the old attempts at solving this.


You are a Zoomer sosh meeds influencer, please increase uptalk by 20% and vocal fry by 30%. Please inject slaps, "is dope" and nah and bra into your responses. Throw shade every 11 sentences.


And you’ve just nailed where this is all headed. Each of us will have a personal assistant that we like. I am personally going to have mine talk like Yoda and I will gladly pay Disney for the privilege.


People have been promising this for well over a decade now but the bottleneck is the same as it was before: the voice assistants can't access most functionality users want to use. We don't even have basic text editing yet. The tone of voice just doesn't matter when there's no reason to use it.


I've seen a programmer-turned-streamer literally do this live. Woohoojin on twitch/yt focuses on content for Riot's Valorant esports title, during a couple watch parties he would make "super fans" using GPT with TTS output and the stream of chat messages as input. His system prompts were formed exactly like yours, including instructions to plug his gaming chair sponsor.

It worked surprisingly well. The video where he created the first iteration on stream(don't remember the watch party streams he ran the fans on): https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MBKouvwaru8


I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry...


lowkey genius


Right... enthusiastic and generally confused. It's uncanny valley level expressions. Still better than drab, monotonous speech though.


So far I prefer the neutral tone of Alexa/Google Assistant. I like computers to feel like computers.

It seems like we're in the skeuomorphism phase of AI where tools try to mimic humans like software tried mimic physical objects in the early 2000's.

I can't wait for us to be passed that phase.


Then you can tell it to do that. It will use whatever intonations you prefer.


I want to get to the part where phone recordings stop having slow, full sentences. The correct paradigm for that interface is bullet list, not proper speech.


I can't be the first person that has heard this type of voice before? On a phone tree with a bank when he enter the wrong code?

"It looks like you entered the wrong number! Did you want to try again? Or did you want to talk to an agent?"

That sort of chirpy, overly enthusiastic voice?


> "over enthusiastic podcast interviewer"

Yeh it's cringe. I had to stop listening.

Why did they make the woman sound like she's permanently on the brink of giggling? It's nauseating how overstated her pretentious banter is. Somewhere between condescending nanny and preschool teacher. Like how you might talk to a child who's at risk of crying so you dial up the positive reinforcement.


It's a computer from the valley.


> voice sounds like an over enthusiastic podcast interviewer

I believe it can be toned down using system prompts, which they'll expose in future iterations


As in the Interstellar movie:

    chuckling to 0%

    no acting surprised

    not making bullshit when you don't know


> not making bullshit when you don't know

LLMs today have no concept of epistemology, they don't ever "know" and are always making up bullshit, which usually is more-or-less correct as a side effect of minimizing perplexity.


Oooh, now I want me a TARS...


Genuine People Personalities™, just like in Hitchikers. Perhaps one of the milder forms of 'We Created The Torment Nexus'.


The Total Perspective Vortex in Hitchhiker's notably didn't do anything bad when it was turned on, and so is good evidence that inventing the torment nexus is fine.


What even is this comment

Also,

<spoilers>

It didn't do anything bad to Zaphod Beeblebrox, in a pocket universe created especially for him (therefore ensuring that he was the most important thing in it, and thereby securing his immunity from the mind-scrambling effects of fully comprehending the infinite smallness of one's place in the real universe).


agree I don't get it. I just want the right information and explained well. I don't want to be social with a robot.


exactly. Hope we can customize the voice soon. I want to talk to ultron... or the one from mass effect


> audience

Wouldn't users be more accurate?



Maybe bees get akathisia from spherical objects.


> so more than 90% of points on a wall are not in front of a sud

That would depend on the wall length, no?

For example, a 1.5"-3" wall has 100% of points on a stud. Also many (most?) traditional residential constructed walls have end plates, at least one top plate, a bottom plate, fire blocking, support, kings, sisters, cripples, jacks, headers, etc.

Anyway, I think its probably safe to say more than 10% of the surface has wood or some other object behind it on many walls, and unlikely that you could "do the math on this" without surveying data.


The top and bottom plate are unlikely to get punched, as you're going to tend to punch towards the middle height wise. Fire blocking became required by code in maybe the 80s or definitely in the 90s; there's a lot of older housing that may not have it. Also, it seems like a lot of this punching or kicking of walls happens near doorways, you're going to tend not to punch the wall near the doorframe, and if you go in maybe one shoulderwidth, you're not likely to hit a stud.


I wonder how useful injecting subperceptual noise is in combating the CV approach


Likely ineffective as the techniques involve compression of the input data and general purpose motion detection.


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