n-exploit's comments

On: Jazz Kissa

[n-exploit]

I love the idea of a Jazz Kissa, but I wonder if this would even work in the U.S. due to intellectual property/rights restrictions.

It was probably less of a problem when you owned physical copies, but I don’t see it working (legally) with digital rights restrictions.

I worked as a barista over a decade ago and our cafe paid a not insignificant amount of special CDs that were allowed for public retail use (Muzak?)

On: Intelsat 33e breaks up in geostationary orbit

[n-exploit]

Any future risk events related to negligence?

On: Subvert – Collectively owned music marketplace

[n-exploit]

The public document - PLAN FOR THE ARTIST-OWNED INTERNET - zine subvert published yesterday has quite a bit of detail on the complexities and possibilities in the governance and benefit of the co-op. The team supposedly includes lawyers and economists.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1znV0Q8_jjxFTiKeT_FETTZieiXl...

On: Subvert – Collectively owned music marketplace

[n-exploit]

I think silicon valley actually LIKES founder fiefdoms. Not really the same spirit as worker cooperatives. The cap table is the game.

[FactKnower69 → n-exploit]

hard for investors to get paid for other people's work when the workers own their profits :(

On: Subvert – Collectively owned music marketplace

[n-exploit]

You might underestimate the power games that are artist royalties agreements and the current domination by large corporates.

On: Subvert – Collectively owned music marketplace

[n-exploit]

I assume there will be some energy within the cooperative to establish some shared means of production. It seems probable.

On: Subvert – Collectively owned music marketplace

[n-exploit]

> > PURCHASE ZINE

> Is the only way to get a copy of the manifesto, really to purchase it (or join as a member)? How is someone supposed to even know whether they want to be involved in the project, if they aren't allowed to read the document first?

The ZINE is publicly available: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ra6r2zSkw7NCYNTAqP9923ValZi...

On: Subvert – Collectively owned music marketplace

[n-exploit]

Mondragon is a great model demonstrating the greater possibilities within complementary-industry cooperative economy. Mondragon is partnership between and across industries.

I could see the regional distribution of industry across/within geography, as applied within Mondragon, mapping well to genre distribution across/within industry production tooling/technologies for Subvert.

On: Subvert – Collectively owned music marketplace

[n-exploit]

They're being very open about the legal structuring too, with open source legal docs and agreements.

https://subvert.fm/changelog/

On: Subvert – Collectively owned music marketplace

[n-exploit]

This sounds like enshittification itself, in its own way. Rotating hands to the highest bidder.

[joemi → n-exploit]

How in the world is it enshittification if there's no noticeable change to users? Nothing got shittier, so doesn't that by definition mean it's not enshittification?