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Because all the Gazan HN readers have already been murdered by the Zionist state.


It's not about muslims vs Jews. It's about being pro genocide and being anti genocide.

Don't make this about religion. Human beings do not want to see genocide carried out on concentration camp of 2.3 million people.


There are no 2 sides. There is an oppressor and the oppressed. The coloniser and the colonised. The occupation and the occupied.


>There are no 2 sides. >Go on to break everything down into two sided relationships.

Remember poster: Despite the Romulan's insistence, There...are...four...lights!


2 sides implies equal footing. Especially as many equate this to a war. This isn't a war, it's a genocide.

But joke about it. Who cares? Just a bunch of people out of sight, out of mind, getting blown to bits day in day out.

Hilarious isn't it.


It wouldn't just require a change of leaders. It would require an end to apartheid against Palestinians. It would require the colonist settlement of Israel giving back all it's land to the Palestinians. It would require all those involved being brought in front of the ICC for war crimes, genocide and ethnic cleansing.


I'm pleased to see accuracy in the history of techno.

I for one did not know it's roots took place back in the 70s and from the black community.

These days when I look at techno artists and their raving followers, its prodimently white. I have since taken active steps to seek out the lesser know black artists to support.

Many modern music fundamentals are origins from the black community and very little is correctly attributed and/or black artists are sidelined.


> it's roots took place ... from the black community

> origins from the black community

gotta give credit to the engineers who pioneered electronic music synthesis, like Robert Moog, or the Japanese who created Korg synthesizers in the article.

Influences for any technology, project, art, etc come from a large web of sources. Racial gatekeeping and attribution is close-minded.

Let the people enjoy techno without guilt.


Why guilt? The first stuff anyone started calling techno was pretty black. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhtdRd9AuIs

And that's OK, there's literally nothing wrong with this. I think there's also a lot of stuff to be said about how there's anecdotes about how the early rave scene had a lot of previously unheard of racial unity going on, stuff like skinhead and rasta gangs or even rival football ultras encountering each other and literally just vibing when they'd be fighting each other before


> Why guilt?

GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad.

> The first stuff anyone started calling techno was pretty black

you could say the first stuff anyone started calling electronic music was pretty white. point is, racial attribution for something that has a huge array of influences is silly.

> unheard of racial unity going on

yes, the way it should be.


> GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad.

I don't see that; I don't see any "guilt", using your word. Can you point it out? People have other motives.

My impression is that you brought your own (reactionary?) bias to it, using a reactionary talking point whether it really applies or not. Why bring down someone who is trying to expand their experiences, knowledge, and community, in a world where racism is common and leads to many people being excluded. We should work to include - that's great, creative, positive; there's no reason it needs to be motivated by guilt.


This confuses the heck out of me. I saw my comment as the more inclusive.

> using a reactionary talking point

???


Probably your first time discussing these things on the Internet!


im gonna start a music project called sounding fun at techno parties


This article is about techno specifically, not electronic music. There's a lot of electronic music that has nothing to do with techno - techno is a genre, like chiptune, trance or dubstep.


> As part of Beatportal’s new series on the history of electronic dance music, Marcus Barnes explores the rich history of techno, from the 1970s right through to today.

it's a series about electronic music history.


OP didn’t insinuate people should feel guilty. Those feelings you are having are of your own causing and interpretation. He was just stating facts


oh i don't feel any guilt at all. I was interpreting OPs motive for changing their behavior, and why they felt the need to communicate it as if it were a noble act.

> its prodimently white. I have since taken active steps to seek out the lesser know black artists to support

I couldn't care less who the specific artist is for techno music i listen to.


Cool? Why can’t we all do what we please? OP has a different opinion and wants to honor the underrepresented people who inspired it


It's not uncommon for a popular techno artist to talk about how Detroit techno influenced them. As far as I've seen, Detroit techno artists, most often Black, are given a lot of respect for their contributions, so I would like to hear about who was sidelined or not correctly attributed.


If you want to see quite the videos check these out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV8_eUJ6C1w [ Acid Mix Detroit Chicago - New Dance Show 1989 ] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz2wInkVkRU [ Techno Jam - New Dance Show 1989 ] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aUAqboAvQM [ City of Techno (Detroit) - New Dance Show 1991 ]

Great examples of the racial diversity in the early scene in Detroit. I think this was some public access TV show?

Anyways speaking from living in Latin America the scene here is HUGE for techno and house, I would probably say the numbers here are bigger and more diverse than I've seen for the same scene in North America and balance out the melanation factor quite a lot


It's bizarre and charming at the same time to hear music so similar to the colder, minimal kind of techno you'd expect to hear at a dark themed party in a shady club full of edgy young people, and see the happy, well dressed, colorful, smiling people in the video.


It's good vibin videos for sure, looked like a great time


Yes, LATAM has the wildest contemporary techno scene after Europe. The US had next to no techno scene pre-pandemic, a party or two in NY or LA each weekend was it, now its dead.


Are you sure? NY would have plenty of parties, like 20-30 on a popping weekend night. Full range.

I know Colombia is really into it. I went to pretty solid parties in Brazil, at Fabriketa in Sao paulo. Felt fairly similar to the NY scene.

NY would have the big events for the "cool" crowd, big showcases like afterlife and stuff at the Mirage. Then smaller clubs like Nowadays, where you could get an 8 hour Wata Igarashi set etc. Underground one-offs like The Bunker.

Plus it seemed like a lot of Europe's cities have their scene and they focus more on that. Of course Berlin is high quality but like Copenhagen focuses on schacke and stuff. Whereas NY you can get a taste of everything in a year.


Yeah they even have a hardtechno/schranz thing going on in Colombia and Venezuela, bit too turbo for me but still cool

Colombia had someone spinning that who was when she was still alive quite the amusement because she changed her name to ladyzunga cyborg and then... this

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/80/590x/Colombi...

RIP abcdefg hijklmn opqrst uvwxyz


That’s quite a broad brush to paint 300+ million people with. Techno communities exist outside of mega cities in the US


To fully appreciate the difference in scale, compare the event listings for any pre-Covid Saturday night on RA: https://ra.co

Berlin, Amsterdam, London, etc, each had a larger scene than the entirety of the US combined.


One root is there definitely in America. However this piece overlooks the work of Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream in Europe in the early 1970s.


White European here (Spain).

Black people in the US invented basically the three modern music roots:

- Blues/Rock

- Techno

- Rap

The problem is rap had much better marketing in the US, ditto with rhythm and blues in the 90's.


Omitting jazz from the list of African-American musical innovations is like omitting goal-scoring from Messi's achievements or MacOS from Apple's.

Also, by "rap" I think you mean 'hip-hop', which includes sampling and mixing, especially using turntables.

> Well, blues is the son of jazz music :)

Try some Muddy Waters and John Coltrane, listen, then report back.

With due respect, beyond every form of music being related to every other (just like you are probably a distant relative of mine), they are such different genres that my impression of the comment - which could be completely wrong - is that the commenter has not listed to jazz, blues, or both.


Can’t forget jazz there either.

And I’d argue that blues and rock are separate, but that most rock until late 90s was heavily influenced by blues. But that’s all just fun trying to draw lines where there isn’t a clear difference sometimes.


Well, blues is the son of jazz music :)

PD: I didn´t put Blues/Rock as separate entities, but two genres where late blues albums could be considered something as proto-rock. And ditto with jazz-swing-blues. It's like a continuum.


More like the father!


Oh, TIL. As blues got played until really long (until it gave birth to rock), I tought the opposite.


not just techno, also house


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WpudasPafg

Good documentary on the origins of house and techno from 70s disco, to 4 to the floor disco and the coming of the 808, how this moved to house in chicago and some sci fi nerds with a love for kraftwerk in detroit started techno. Then how the UK got involved and these DJs from the US, used to playing to 50-80 people in tiny underground, often gay clubs would come to the UK and play to 10,000 in massive outdoor / warehouse events and rave was born


For anyone seeing the copyright claim and wondering what this was, it seems to be a BBC documentary called Can You Feel It - How Dance Music Conquered the World. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11719632/


Detroit techno is a completely different beast to the modern European techno scene. Less than 1% of DJs playing at Berghain are black. Modern techno is dominated by Europeans.


I believe the language revolving around AI has been construed by those who are not knowledgable technically but spout nonsense to appear knowledgable to attract clicks and sell books.

It doesn't help when laypersons see anatomical terms like neural network and get the image of a computer replicating a human neuron. In fact its merely a fancy for loop. The same results can be achieved with a few nested for loops though not as efficient).

AI at the moment is a term flung around too much. There are some faux AI tools out there to cash in on the trend. Others can be simple implementations of predictive analysis with AI label slapped on the side for grandeur.

Like another poster said, its about managing expectations.


It would be helpful if the title was more specific as the blog post discusses GDP specifically.

More to the point, GDP isn't everything. There are many factors at play. It is possible to cherry pick a multitude of attributes to compare Europe with the US and have either appear to be failing in a graph.

Think about how the graph would look if the following were considered: education levels, clean air/water, broadband connectivity, health care, inner city and suburban public transport.

Also when comparing Europe it would be fair to include Europe in the data rather than a select few countries, otherwise the title (and the argument) becomes more misleading.


Unity has a c# scripting api, layered on the core c++ foundation. Unreal, on the hand, is C++ top and bottom.


> Unreal, on the hand, is C++ top and bottom.

They have Blueprints[1] (visual scripting) and had a scripting language. However, they have removed it since then.

1: https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/ProgrammingAndScripting/...


A runtime scripting language is coming back in some form or another thanks to Epic acquiring the SkookumScript team.


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