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Thank you. Very helpful!


They are so shiny and so smart. It's easy to tell behind it is a group of truly smart people -- marketing, designers, engineers, and etc. Except, working with them have become our worst nightmare, the greatest risk to our existence.


They got so used of the user being their product, that they forgot sometimes they actually have to give support to the users who are using their service.


Thank you. I have submitted a report to the ICANN Complaints Office (https://www.icann.org/complaints-office).


For anyone interested: Turns out, this is the right place to create a ticket for ICANN Contractual Compliance Complaint https://icannportal.force.com/compliance/s/generic-registrar.


Yes! We are moving everything away from Google. No more Google products. Personally I have been fooled by their shiny, easy-to-use UIs. Turns out it's a trap!


Indeed! We have contacted them 15 times, and provided as much detail as possible for case resolution. Forty-two hours later, we have yet to receive a single reply! It's truly astonishing.


Forwarded you the original email. Thank you so much!!


Exactly, I am learning it the hard way. I have been warned many, many times before (about Google) but I did not take them seriously.


We could not transfer the domain. I would like to because the whole community is currently being threatened. Not to mention, personally it could result in "termination of your account," the Google account that I have been using for more than a decade (for my emails, cell phone, wallet, etc)!


It's a bit late now, but it's a good idea to make a new fresh Google account for each project (which will require a new fresh phone number to verify it when you create it, I suggest Mint prepaid), for reasons which are at this moment too obvious.


All google accounts are tied up/linked up. If one Google account is banned, Google will terminate every thing else.


At this point, I would like to have NO relationship with Google, period. This has been a nightmare to deal with, and I have learned my lessons. NO GOOGLE.


Only if you link them by logging in to multiple ones from the same cookie jar.

Use a distinct number for creating each, a vpn at all times, and don't cross the streams (use a fresh browser/profile).


Thank you, especially for recommending Mint.


This is a lesson I learned the hard way when my Microsoft account was suspended without explanation for a month, then restored with zero explanation. I couldn't access my OneDrive, OneNote, Skype, Office, email, I couldn't even play games I had bought for my Xbox, or access apps from the Microsoft Store.

The lesson learned is don't put all your digital eggs into one digital basket. Takes a lot to make you smile after that.


> eggs into one digital basket

Not just digital. For many years I have avoided the seduction of "triple-play" TV, phone and broadband, precisely because I don't want to let a single billing dispute leave me cut off from the world.

Similarly, I choose to buy gas from a gas company, and electricity from an electricity company. I don't want a billing dispute (or an honest mistake) to leave me completely without fuel.


I really like this way of thinking. Minimizing risk over short-term convenience is something we should all think more about.


This truly is why Google should be broken up. I understand the anti-trust argument now.


> We could not transfer the domain

Depending on the TLD that might be a contractual breach between Google and the registry. I would suggest reading the TOS of the extension on the registry's website and complain if Google breaches them. Sometimes it's forbidden to the registrar to prevent a transfer, even when there's a dispute.


Thank you, thank you for suggesting this!


That's from the past 30 days.


Are you sure you’re not actually spamming people? What sort of messages are these? Did people subscribe to them? How long have you been sending these out for?


Absolutely not! We use double opt-in, with explicit subscribe call to action. We are fully GDPR/CCPA compliant.


I'm not that keen on the phrase "double opt-in". It's a phrase used by marketers, to make it look as if anti-spammers are doubling their workload and making things unnecessarily complicated.

What you are referring to should be called "confirmed opt-in", and it simply means that you don't accept an opt-in unless you can be sure it came from the owner of the mailbox in question, and was not forged. Making people opt-in twice wouldn't help with that.


Good point!!


If the content of your email or frequency of emails is not inline with the expectation of subscribers when they subscribed, some will report the emails as spam regardless of the steps you documented.


Sure, we have been doing this for several years so we are aware of these pitfalls. The issue is the way Google has been handling this case. There is no process, no communication. They have made extreme threats, with nothing to back it up, no way to respond.


This a thousand times. We also go to greath lengths to ensure there's no spam coming from our servers and then we get a notification and it's for a legitimate email that someone reported as spam for whatever reasons. It's frustrating.


Sorry this happened. All I can recommend is to transfer your domain away. We do cold reachouts as well (less than 20 a day though) and I have my domain in namecheap.


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