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We built hellowonder.ai as a PWA first, and it was almost amazing! But we use voice input, and ios would pop up the microphone permission repeatedly after a few minutes, even if it had been approved recently. I couldn't figure out how to keep the microphone permission!

So frustrating to be soooo close, and then need to build an iOS app.


Well, it's part chat bot, so I don't know if it meets your criteria. But we're using them for a LOT of things behind the scenes to help kids find content they love that their parents approve of.

[HelloWonder.ai](Hellowonder.ai)

The front end looks like a chat bot, but on the backend we're using LLMs to find, parse, rate, classify, and rephrase content on the fly for individuals.


We are tackling this at hellowonder.ai . I took what I learned building ai tools at Google and built a system that does more than just block bad content for kids. It helps kids find exciting content that is aligned with their parents, effectively allowing them much more freedom.

It’s amazing how this system actually brings kids and parents closer together in practice.

Email seth@ that domain if you have kids and would like to skip the waitlist.


Sounds like a really interesting system but the devil's in the details. I really don't see how you solve this without some combination of layer 3 filtering and individual kernel level apps for all supported devices.


Does this work for Android? I'd be interested but we have only Android and desktop Linux devices


Awesome! Thank you for sharing. Here’s a tiny little feature idea I’ve always wanted: when a link opens a new tab, the back button should close the tab and take you back where you were!

Congratulations on launching!


(For what it’s worth, Safari on iOS does that)


Absolutely! That's something I would like to implement as well.


It does, but it’s really quirky! Any browser getting it right without so many weird quirks would be a compelling option for me.


In addition, it would be great if after going back that way there would be a way to go forward again (= undo the going back and closing the tab), in particular if the tab one has returned to has no other forward history. I frequently miss this in Safari.


thedad.blog


I'm genuinely curious how you would classify my product, Wonder an AI powered browser for kids: hellowonder.ai

Does it cross the threshold?


Yeah I'll raise my hand here to say I did a file manager that automates file management tasks by using AI to write Bash scripts (Aerome.net). It's still super primitive though, if I'm being honest. I think the problem is that it's way harder to write a cross platform file manager, or browser wrapper in your case, then it is to write a chat interface on top of ChatGPT. I suspect in a year or two many good use cases will emerge, as people write more complicated software to take advantage of LLM's capabilities.

I'm going to check out you're browser thing later tonight, it looks good!


I believe we can use AI here :-) It is suddenly scalable to help kids develop critical thinking skills live in real time.

I've got 5 year olds, 8, 10 and a 12 year old, and they've been my beta testers for Wonder [0].

It uses AI to help direct kids towards positive content online, and defers to me to help my oldest navigate this tricky online world.

Let me know if you have kids and would like to try it out!

[0] https://gotwonder.com


As an aside, if you actually want to ask the wire cutter random questions, you can check out the green bubble in the lower left here: https://askthis.site/nytimes.com/wirecutter


I've changed my mind. Historically I've been opposed to computers being a panacea for education.

At the MIT Media Lab I was one of the earliest critics of the strategy and effects of the One Laptop Per Child project.

I've changed my mind.

There are real issues certainly, beyond AI making things up, encouraging risky behavior, or kids asking it naughty questions. Things like, can it damage a kids social skills, create echo chambers, or push them towards propaganda.

But the upside is incredible. Integrating an LLM like GPT4 into a more kid-centered suite of models unlocks tons of potential.

The first thing I built into my AI tutor system was the ability for it to look up facts from reputable websites, and to help kids answer questions for themselves.

Then I taught the AI to help a kid develop their interests, so they take a topic they're curious about and dive deeper in to it.

And then I taught the AI to notify me if there are topics that are more appropriate for a parent to engage in.

The tool I'm building actually helps kids become more curious, creative, and thoughtful.

It isn't perfect yet, but the truth is kids spend 7 hours a day on screens already. I'm very excited at the possibilities.

Let me know if you'd like to try it!

seth@gotwonder.com


Yes! This is exactly right.

I've built a tutor for my kids, that listens to them, and helps them explore topics that they're passionate about.

What's blown my mind is how it has driven creativity OFF screen too. They engage with the world in a deeper way when they have the power to explore their passions on their own.

If you want to try it, join the waitlist here: gotwonder.com and then email me: seth@gotwonder.com and I'll bump you up the list!


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