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Yup. The physically, economically and socially mobile class is derived principally from people who moved from the working classes, mostly in the centuries following industrialisation.

The genetic divide goes more the other way - of course there’s going to be some positive selection for educational attainment/intelligence for people who left the village, but more generally the local populations are quite insular, migrate little (especially the ones who remain, of course - self-selecting), and have quite a few children, and in a population like that, you get genetic drift, resulting in more distinctive alleles compared to a generally larger mobile population, compared to the individual sedentary populations.

Where I live in Portugal this process has been going on for nearly a millennium - and you can tell if someone is from village X or Y 5km apart but separated by a river, just by looking at them - specific alleles get more and more prevalent in a small, largely closed population, quickly.

This doesn’t show that social mobility is broken - if anything, the opposite - it shows that a great many people have left the village and joined the mobile elite.


My truck is used purely and solely for truck shit - getting in and out from where we live, which is absolutely impassible with anything other than a high 4x4 with mudder tyres, and hauling everything from trees to gravel to water to batteries - there’s almost always something substantial in the bed.

It gets washed maybe twice a year, as it ends up filthy within 20 minutes anyway - and the panels all have scratches and dents from forging through brush.

For car shit, I have an (electric) car which I park on the main road.

The idea of waxing my truck is up there with the idea of waxing my legs.


Highly unlikely. More probable is that the military will move in and shoot them all for throwing rocks, and that Yuval Abraham will be imprisoned for distributing “terrorist propaganda”. Levi will probably be given a cash payout and sympathetic interviews on TV. Maybe a medal for bravery and a new car, too.

Lets see if this expansion of the atrocity you describe comes to pass.

IMHO, the mere fact we are discussing this on HN, traditionally very resistant to propagating news such as this, may signal a change in tide.


Oh, this story will be flagged and dead within the hour.

Edit: minute. It’s gone.


I don’t understand why these posts get flagged. They are relevant. They are far less flammatory due to widespread agreement than other controversial topics. They attract a small subset of trolls which is a huge problem for HN because it doesn’t have trolls. But those trolls get downvoted quickly. So the need for flagging this is less.

If the title was less “Palestinian” maybe it would not be flagged. I remember when the Netflix Nachos crew member was killed in Mexico by a cartel, this was on HN.


Mexico does not have a large involvement in tech investment. Israel does.

The majority of Mexicans do not support the cartels. A majority of Israelis support settlers.


Respect, but this is kinda the hard way - I just plugged mine (dumb machine, not smart) in via an energy metering plug, and when energy use drops to less than 10W for more than 2 minutes, it’s done - very simple homeassistant automation. Convenient for me as the machine is 500m from the house.

Now I want to know why your washing machine is half a kilometer from your house.

One reason I can think of - in some places where houses are small (like in cities the UK) you might not have a garage on your property and might rent one nearby (they are often in little rows, e.g. [1]). So they might have that kind of situation and have the washing machine there if it's a very small house?

1. https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-row-of-private-car-garages...


It's tough times: their villa has a washing room in the servants block away from the house, but now they had to release everyone but the valet, housekeeping, masseur and hairdresser, so the washer role has been eliminated and now they need the notification for their valet to go pick it up.

Seriously, me too. I also want to know how they transport the laundry to/from the machine. I'm hoping for a conveyor belt of sorts.

Vacuum tube system like a bank drive through.

A backpack, currently, although one of my myriad projects is a rack railway for when I am old and feeble.

The factory must grow!

A well aimed wind-compensated tshirt cannon.

Them living on a farm is the only explanation I can come up with.

Correct. Have several houses on the land, and it made more sense to put the machine where it was both equidistant between them and where the washing line is.

No, the obvious over engineered solution would be to mount the machines on a train (or tracked vehicle for bonus points) that can come when called and go where needed!

The problem (scratch that, "the most interesting challenge") with that is that a washer needs a water supply line, water release outlet (if not for chemicals, might not be the issue on a farm) and electricity (perhaps a simple problem to get power connections to it through the rail like trains).

I’m envisioning docking stations - power is relatively easy with pantographs and similar things, water could be gravity fed into holding tanks …

Nah, you just put a 5-10kwh battery on there, along with a small water tank and pump - a load of washing (in Europe) only uses 50L and about 2kwh tops - up to 5 with drying. The rest of the battery powers the drive train for the vehicle. Then you just have a dock for charging and water replenishment. We only use zero phosphate eco detergent, so waste can be dumped wherever. Maybe position it to water some plants when it drains.

You know, my whole life is madcap projects (today is running half a km of fibre down the inside of a live water main) so I’ll update you when I have a mobile laundromat.


Sounds cheaper to just get multiple washing machines instead :D

This is what I do - when the washer finishes, a light turns on in the kitchen letting us know. Then, when the dryer has drawn power for 10 seconds, the light turns back off, because that’s a good indication that someone dealt with the wet laundry. (Sometimes things get out of sync but not often!)

Couldn't you just set a timer for 45 minutes, or whatever? Is there that much variance in load times?

Some washing machines (mine at least) have some "smart" features that adjust the wash time depending on some factors. Nothing more annoying than coming to the laundry after my phone alarm goes off, and seeing the timer on my washing machine go UP(!!!) from 0:01 to 0:02 ...

Eliminating any unneeded manual steps adds reliability. The load done thing goes off when the load is done, you don't forget to start it.

Smart plugs are cheap enough where it doesn't take a lot of convenience to justify it.


That's also my approach and works great.

I used Shelly plugs for for the washer and the dryer. Put little Go application on my server in the basement and get Telegram notifications + HTTP interface updates about the different states (running, finished, standby).

This saved a lot of forgotten loads .


I do the same,works great. I liked it so much that im doing the same with my microwave, after removing the annoying beeper it had. Now i get a decent single short beep and can monitor how often I've used it.

Nex is a cybersecurity student in a house of similar people, they're gonna take every way :3

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> The plan is, in future, since we can't hack something that doesn't have a brain, to instead attach a brain to it. The dishwasher is easy, we can just whack that on a smart plug and monitor when the power use surges and drops. The dryer is a bit more difficult, since they pull a LOT of power, and smart plugs typically either don't support that much power, or are incredibly expensive. So that's likely going to be some fancy vibration sensor-based thingy


Vibration sensor is exactly what I did, for exactly that reason. Zigbee sensor + home assistant and a little bit of timer logic to manage the state

Shelly has power meters with clamps, so that the meter is not in-line. There are probably Zigbee variants out there.

Yeah this is my approach too. Though I need to revisit the thresholding.

I’m a guy. I was stabbed by one ex, while she was drunk, dated another girl for a year only for her to suddenly drop the “my boyfriend in the army is coming home” bombshell, and had another relationship that turned into violence and stalking.

I think we need to remember that this isn’t a one-way street.


Of course it’s not, but it’s highly asymmetrical. It’s especially asymmetrical around physical violence and physical vulnerability of women.

> In New Zealand, the twenty-one year Dunedin Multidisciplinary Health and Development Study, published in 1999, reported that of their sample of 1,037 people, 27% of women and 34% of men reported being physically abused by a partner, with 37% of women and 22% of men reporting they had perpetrated intimate partner violence.

> A growing body of international research indicated that men and women experience Intimate partner violence in some similar proportions. An example might be a recent survey from Canada's national statistical agency that concluded that "equal proportions of men and women reported being victims of spousal violence during the preceding 5 years (4% respectively)."

> The aforementioned surveys indicate that small proportions of men (less than 20% of victims) will tell the police or a health professional about their victimization. This may be due to well-grounded fears that they will be scorned, ridiculed, or disbelieved by these authorities.

Your point that it's "highly asymmetrical" is just wrong.

> Indeed, a recent research paper by Dr. Elizabeth Bates from the University of Cumbria found that the overarching experience of male IPV victims was that "no one would ever believe me."

And it directly contributes to the toxic attitude around male victims of domestic violence.


Thanks for sharing! I was surprised by it to be honest. The country I’m coming from husbands beating wives were quite common, and I don’t think statistics was as equal as this one.

Homicide rates are still asymmetrical, but I was surprised that also not as much (like 1.5 times difference).


The reported incidences account for the bias - as the parent notes, men are much less likely to report domestic violence.

When I was stabbed, I took myself to hospital and said I did it myself, accidentally - she was a trainee barrister and I didn’t want to fuck her career up, plus “my girlfriend stabbed me” is usually going to get you “oh yeah, and what did you do to deserve it?” and police questioning in response.


That's some luck you got there

Just get people to mail you cash. Sounds stupid, but that’s how I built my first ecommerce business in the 90’s, and it was a pretty normal way to pay for stuff online. Cash, money order, bank cheque, whatever.

> Just get people to mail you cash.

> (For anyone thinking crypto: we have a different idea of what it means to be either "realistically viable" or to "compete with Steam")

Wow, not crypto, but GP fucking nailed it.


You can't realistically target anyone outside the US with this.

It worked for Amazon.com in 1995!

> Bezos: We got an order from somebody in Bulgaria, and this person sent us cash through the mail to pay for their order. And they sent us two crisp $100 bills. And they put these two $100 bills inside a floppy disk. And then they put a note on the cover of the floppy disk, and they mailed this whole thing to us. And the note on the cover of the floppy disk said, "The money is inside the floppy disk. The customs inspectors steal the money, but they don't read English." That shows you the effort to which people will go to be able to buy things.


> That shows you the effort to which people will go to be able to buy things.

It shows you the effort that some people will go to be able to buy things if they also don't have good alternatives.

But if we're talking about a hypothetical Steam competitor, then Steam still exists and takes credit cards.


You can’t realistically target anyone inside the US with it either. USPS is allowed to seize cash in packages if it believes it’s being used for illegal purposes.

We are discussing legal purchases though, not illegal ones.

At least I hope that USPS is forbidden from not (eventually) delivering legal packages ?


Back in the days we used to mail cash in an envelope all the way to Britain just for some RuneScape membership time.

You can't even realistically target people inside the US with this. How many people are gonna mail cash to buy digital games? Gimme a fucking break.

Yes, a small business in the 90s may have been able to make it work, but it's not the 90s anymore.


By their own logic that association should disband, as their existence could remind people of their traumatic childhood experiences.

When you can see interleave that’s a good reason to change your tyres. My stock tyres on a model Y lasted 11,000km - but my daily drive is a tortured ribbon of tarmac with nothing but corners.

I don’t know what interleave means in your country but the way to measure tire wear is replace when tread depth gets below 1.6 mm.

Next time get tires with a 50k mile warranty, like Pirelli Scorpions.


Interleave is the woven metal below the rubber.

You can absolutely get them to chirp, you just have to be, uh, brave. Or stupid. I deposited my tyres along my daily commute over four months - it’s like having one of those racing line markers in a game.

Although I may drive a bit more sensibly for now as €4K a year on tyres wasn’t in my budget.


Mine lasted 11k km before I was seeing interleave.

Alignment is fine, had it checked when I had a new set of continentals fitted.

My problem is purely that I drive like an asshole, on very windy, empty roads. Every day is track day.

Decent tyres, too, continentals - soft compound, hard roads. Means it corners like a dream right up until the tyres are bald.


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