kvanbeek's comments

On: Google open-sources experimental agent orchestration testbed Scion

[kvanbeek]

This seems to be in the direction of Gas Town but missing some of the core features. Having formulas has been game changing.

[ptone → kvanbeek]

[primary author and architect of scion here] The missing features are mostly by design - this is closer to what the gastown plans as "gascity" - bring your own orchestration characters and definition.

If you look at this orchestration example

https://github.com/ptone/scion-athenaeum

its just markdown - Scion is the game engine

(a port of gastown to run on scion is in progress)

On: Codex pricing to align with API token usage, instead of per-message

[kvanbeek]

So migrate to gemini now?

[matt_heimer → kvanbeek]

If you use Google's tooling but not if you need API access. API access is not in the subscriptions and uses token based pricing. For development I find that the Gemini IDE plugins that have good free usage and are included in the subscriptions aren't great. Gemini plug-in under IntelliJ is often broken, etc. The best experience is with other tools like Cline where you've had to use a developer based account which is API usage based already.

But Gemini's API based usage also has a free tier and if that doesn't work for you (they train on your data) and you've never signed up before you get several hundred dollars in free credits that expire after 90 days. 3 months of free access is a pretty good deal.