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> Germany is a big reason GDPR got so complicated and why, hopefully soon, it will be updated to not be fixated on just cookies so much.

In what way is GDPR focused on cookies?

In my experience, developers in online discussions make it seem all about cookies, pretending other ways of tracking don't exist, while the law does not. But it has been a while since I looked into it and I might remember that wrong.

> There usually is no cookie screen when you install one usually (unless it's a web app packaged up as an app).

A lot of games provide opt-in screens, as they heavily rely on ad networks.

> If you read the actual law, it barely mention cookies at all

Now I am confused, didn't you just say it was focused on cookies?


No, I said a lot of people are mistakenly focusing on cookies when it comes to GDPR. Including the linked site which checks mainly cookie consent issues with a few websites under the GDPR topic.

> toxic tweets receive ~86% more retweets

The part that annoys me about the toxicity, or repetetive and annoying topics on reddit, HN, etc. is not that I am unaware that the content is produced by a small fraction. (I underestimated the count! I guessed 2%)

It's that people espouse it: They upvote and retweet it.

> Both sides develop wildly inaccurate beliefs about who the other side actually is.

That was a guess I had for a while. People have a strawman version of their out-groups in mind and quickly map people to that if an unknown person says something that indicates they might be part of the out-group.

> What percentage of the other side supports political violence?

It would be interesting to see the in-group statistic as well: "What percentage of your own side supports policical violence?", in my experience people also justify very shitty behavior as long as its from their in-group. (This plays heavily into the first point of espousing all kinds of shit)

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It would be interesting to see if the community check actually changes anything. But the actual data seems to be only possibly for very generic topics - those we have the data on already. Something that would not be available for daily-fresh topics.

For my personal sanity I simply left reddit and stopped opening comments on certain HN posts - of course that does not help with the societal problems. Unfortunately.


> People have a strawman version of their out-groups in mind and quickly map people to that if an unknown person says something that indicates they might be part of the out-group.

I think something that is not calibrated in the post and also missing in this reply is that believes and actions do not need to be aligned.

Both groups say around 10% of members support political violence, however no democratic president is pardoning wholesale domestic terrorists. And the 90% of republicans who condemn political violence are not repudiating, removing themselves or condeming the fact that far right groups are the most dangerous demo according to the FBI, or that most political violence occurs in rep states, or the direct correlation of the NRA infiltration into rep campaigning and mass shootings...

Like if you say you dislike violence but defend the system that creates the violence and pardon the people who commit the violence and share the table and take the money from the violent people... your "beliefs" are not worth much.

The whole conversation about out-groups is less relevant when discussing left wing policy due to the fact that it is not orchestrated AROUND in and outgroups. Right wing ideology is de-facto a ingroup political theory where some people must be excluded. When you add morality being justified due to being in group you end up with some very concerning politics where actions are judged on beloning to the group and not the morality of the action or the consequences.

See the blue collar protect the children anti abortion crew voting for a new york millionaire owner of a beuty pagent who was best friend with the worlds best known human child trafficker...

The believe system collapses the second you put the right tee shirt on, and that is what makes polling those people irrelevant. They simply will support whatever is in front of them as long as they belong to the in group. War bad in ukraine, war good in Iran. Taxes bad in 2018, tariff taxes good now. Sillicon Valley tech people all leftwing indian soy boys in 2016 now all alpha podcast ai cool guys who fund our president.

nothing matters as long as you wear the tee shirt


In a team I worked, we had full control over how we wanted to use the board. But the senior people just refused to engage with it, as anything they did on the board would make them accountable.

My lesson: Boards can be awful and useless even without managers running them! :)

I've been using a simple, standalone kanban to manage my own tasks, though.


This is such an important lesson. To me so many things from the "agile" toolkit appear to fail in ways where people tend to blame the tools, but instead are exposing people/process problems. The intent was that organizations use the pain points to improve process and solve problems. But in my experience a lot of organizations would rather remain dysfunctional than work effectively, and so will then shift to tools that don't expose the problems.


Not just boards. I’ll argue any deliverable.

Part of what makes corp life so inefficient is that lack of unified approach.

Working with a company where many of C-suite folks operate in normal corp world: Office 365. Slides, spreadsheets, the currency of business.

Meanwhile the product team operates in JIRA and in Confluence. They communicate with each other in their respective preferred formats.

But imagine if CEO said something like: any deliverable of A,B,C types has to be Confluence. No exceptions. 3 strikes until you get a penalty.

Would that help?


Let me philosophize a bit: Stability gives you the opportunity to take the next step, diversity gives you the opportunity to choose a new direction.


I love the statement not so specific to this conversation but in general. Completely agree.


Sure, all the people who kind jobs that don't force them to use Atlassian products would just resign.


That’s one thing I hate at my company . Many teams run Jira with backlogs, burndowns and whatever. In theory all the info is right there. But the big guys can’t be bothered to use Jira so somebody has to spend hours and hours prepping PowerPoint slides with the info that’s in Jira.


I just require PR's to have tickets attached or it fails CI and otherwise use LLM's to write analytics to track what people are doing these days. Asking devs to hold themselves accountable is an exercise in futility in my experience. In a world where you can do that, why even bother with tickets outside of planning the work done? Might as well just transcribe your standup and turn it into tickets that way too.


> or even extramarital sex (whose baby is it?).

This is the weirdest example of "gambling" I have seen in my life. If you'd've written "unprotected sex" I'd see the gambling part, but "extramartial sex" covers so much more than the tiny subset of "whose baby is it" (how many people are there having sex to gamble on who will be the father of a baby? 10?).

This made my day.


If you are arguing that "siding with the others because of rethoric is dangerous", you are right in general. But to a very surprised reader of this thread, you are arguing with someone that responded to

> Anyone deliberately facilitating that certainly deserves the worst fate imaginable.

That came in a thread started with a now (justly) removed

> might wake up to their family chopped to pieces

This sets the tone I (and possibly others) interpret that message.

I know we are supposed to charitably interpret what people write on here, but a thread like this makes it really hard, given the tone.


You're right, I did pick a bad example. It was extreme, and I'm sure many HN users work for corporations like this and felt targeted.

But it's also worth considering exactly what the mass surveillance state we've got is directly leading to - deaths of many people. How many people have been disappeared or killed by ICE because of technology like this? That's just one group actively targeted by surveillance tech, and the government intends to go after millions more, as they've publicly stated. That's not to mention how many millions of people have had their lives worsened or ruined directly or indirectly because of tech like this.

These sorts of things aren't an innocent startup consisting of a few nerds in a garage, they're shaping the world and setting the stage for the expansion of horrible atrocities. This is ultimately what I mean - you have to look at the effects of what they're doing and the actual consequences. Once you see that and know people who are more directly affected/targeted by these technologies, it becomes a lot more clear why people are so angry at them.


> S3 is costly

> run MinIO

When people say "s3", they mean "any s3 compatible storage" in my experience, not "amazon s3 specifically" or just "s3 as a protocol".


Does the protocol have a published specification? Today I learned S3 isn't just the name of a product from AWS.


Sorry, I'm mostly on the "consumer" side, so I never looked into the specification.


> Even if we assume LLMs would consistently generate good enough quality code, code submitted by someone untrusted would still need detailed review for many reasons - so even in that case it would like be faster for the maintainers to just use the tools themselves, rather than reviewing someone else's use of the same tools.

Wouldn't an agent run by a maintainer require the same scrutiny? An agent is imo "someone else" and not a trusted maintainer.


Yes, I agree. It was just me playing with a hypothetical (but in my view not imminent) future where vibe-coding without review would somehow be good enough.


> I can still license that code to a company and ask them to pay me for using the code

I believe you can do that with public domain/copyright free material in general. There is no requirement to tell someone that the material you license them is also available under a different one or that your license is not enforceable.


Depending on how you do it and they find out, you could certainly be sued for fraud and misrepresentation, though. And, if you put a "copyright by me" at the top of a public domain work, it's technically a crime under 17 U.S.C. § 506(c) - Fraudulent Copyright Notice

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/506#c


Reading the title I wondered if this is about more components coming with their own memory, because I've never heard BOM used as a monetary bill.


Would this even work legally?

I remember the case of books used for training, where the court found training to be fair use, but the material has to be legally obtained (=Bought instead of pirated the books).

> and usage on it

What do you mean by "usage on it"?


I think you nailed it here. What you are "licensing" with your license is copyright. But if training is fair use, copyright doesn't apply, so there is no need for a license.


I mean a clause along "don't ever have any LLM read my code" either for training, or for making a vibecoded output.

How does it work legally? IANAL so I have no idea and that's why I'm asking.


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