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>“I Can Hire Half the Working Class To Fight the Other Half“

Technically a satire quote criticizing the robber Baron it's credited for, but the sentiment is the same. Pay off a bourgeois and they'll fight against the the sympathetic bourgeois and proletariat happily. The elite don't even need to lift a finger.


>I was more interested in finding something less personal and more community-ish. where the power to add or reject submissions does not lie with one individual. Wouldn't that be nice?

So, Hacker News?

Otherwise, be the change you want to see. if you haven't hit critical mass, the "community" will likely be 1-2 people getting he community off the ground anyway. How and if you want to scale from there will vary based on the ones managing the site.


would you call HN just "an awesome list"?

Yes. With comments.

I'm American. I'm not against national ID.

The issue is with the US is that ID is not free. I just had to pay 50 bucks to renew my driver's license. renewing a passport was 150 dollars the last time I checked (which was 2021). So any more costs just to function in society is a major impact to quite a few rights. The most hot topic being voter eligibility.

this is foreign to EU because, to my knowledge, getting an ID is free.


>you can't just flip flop on these things once you open the can of worms

You sort of can when one is done illegally to begin with. While I don't like the Snowden overreach it was done through proper legal channels.

The discussion there should be focused on a judge giving too much leeway in their subpeona, not that this is the same was what's happening now.


We're assuming we all somehow have perfect customers with technical knowledge who know exactly what they want and can express it as such, while gracefully accepting pushback over constraints brought up.

Anyone who's worked in a "bikeshed sensitive" stack of programming knows how quickly things railroad off when such customers get direct access to an engineer. Think being a fullstack dev but you constantly get requests over button colors while you're trying to get the database setup.


Dealing with the occasional pushy customers is way easier than dealing with pushy PMs or designers. Which happen to be the majority.

Customers bikeshed WAY less than those two categories.


I'm glad you dealt with some good customers. I can't agree in my experience, though.

It's not luck.

Customers want to save money and see projects finished. That anyone can reason with.

Someone inside the company trying to climb the corporate ladder? Different story.


+1, customers want their problem solved but at times they struggle to articulate that.

When a customer starts saying “we need to build X”, first ask what the actual problem is etc. It takes actual effort, and you need to speak their language (understand the domain).

But if you have a PM in the middle, now you just start playing telephone and I don’t believe that’s great for anyone involved.


Okay. I'm glad you're privileged enough to where you can choose your customers. Customers that aren't abusive or otherwise out of their league thinking they know everything just because they have money.

Otherwise, you never feeelanced on the cheap.


If he's from the US, he's technically correct. That's the high level argument of Citizens United.

Granted, that's proven to be a horrible concept. So let's repeal that.


We're on a startup entrepreneur site. I'm not surprised it's seen as the lifeblood of the industry here. It sort of is.

At the same time, this has the same energy of "if we release all the files, the system will collapse". Maybe we need the billionaires to feel some pain sometimes (even if yes, we'll feel more overall).


What we have now sure it's freedom. Let's try having our tax dollars work for us this time.

"You criticize society, yet you participate in it".

I have and do pay for website access. That doesn't mean much if the current model flocks to no paid services.


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