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Is that happening because Earth is loosing its magnetic field and the end is near? ;)


Pretty sure we get aurorae because we have a strong magnetic field...


I think those investing efforts and time developing participatory democracy systems, are trying to solve these kind of communication and reasoning problems.

Examples: https://www.noemamag.com/tomorrows-democracy-is-open-source/

and

decidim.org


I'd like to work on something like these, and I didn't know about them--thanks for sharing.

But I don't think the web has the right structure for an app like this. (Decidim seems to be a web app. It's hard to find information about this "Open Insight" thing they're talking about, presumably it is too?)

If you're using the web, somebody controls the server and the others have to trust that person to not abuse their role. It's not exactly primed for democracy.

Blockchains aren't quite right either. You solve the untrustworthy admin problem but you've got this really strong notion of THE official record, which only some people are going to have the ability to update, and that will be used by the powerful at the expense of the weak.

Whatever the right structure is, I think it's partition tolerant. Any party needs to be able to disconnect themselves from any other party such that:

- everything not reliant on that trust edge still works (the web would struggle with this)

- the untrusted party has no ability to censor the revoker, even if they're well trusted by the others (blockchains will struggle with this)

I've been tossing around ideas for what the ideal protocol would look like. SSB is the closest thing I can think of to compare it to, but nothing about it feels very solid yet.


Have you heard of Veilid? It’s sort of envisioned as a framework for building encrypted distributed/federated apps. It’s early days and in active development, but the idea and goals of it remind me of the issues you raised.

https://veilid.com/

https://gitlab.com/veilid/veilid

DEF CON 31 - The Internals of Veilid, a New Decentralized Application Framework - DilDog, Medus4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1lKscAMDQ

An Introduction to Veilid, by Christien Rioux - Rust Linz November 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h288gZTjJOM

There’s also Willow Protocol, which is sometimes compared to SSB and Veilid, but I don’t know as much about it.

https://willowprotocol.org/

Comparison to Other Protocols

https://willowprotocol.org/more/compare/index.html#willow_co...

Edit:

Veilid, So easy a Teenager Can Do It! - Bianca Lewis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BfxIGD6Xno&t=362s


Veilid, yes, willow, no. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll read up on it

I'm starting with something that's familiar but not structurally aligned with what I want to do (git+ssh). I intend to make the "backend" pluggable so I can use the same app to evaluate different distributed frameworks (Veilid, IPFS/Ceramic, IPFS/OrbitDB, Holepunch, IPv8, ...)

Otherwise I'll just spend my life tinkering with distributed frameworks and never end up with a distributed app.


You might like this too, then:

Willow Protocol

429 points by todsacerdoti

3 months ago | 123 comments

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39026791


You're welcome and I'm glad you appreciated. Also, thank you for your insights. About "Open Insight", I think it's not so open at the moment, since I couldn't find any kind of code repository. Maybe it is at an early design phase. Decidim.org is made with Ruby on Rails (good for fast prototyping, but a questionable choice for a critical system, IMHO).


Don't know why someone flagged u/lioeters message: "The U.S. is tooling up Japan for war."

It's so true. Japan "has been buying" high tech war tools from USA, like self-dismantling F-35s, for some time now.


In case you did not notice...If China takes over Taiwan, Chinese troops will be 60 miles from Japanese territory...


I don't know why you are being downvoted.

At one point "pacifist" Japan was one of the top world spenders on "defense". It's a sham and has always been so.

The only benefit was that Japan didn't have to join the initial phase of any of America's invasions on behalf of its asian/middle east ally/ies.

They have been spending big since the mid 90s. It's too bad that the SDF is still incompetent compared to its neighbours.

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/JPN/jap...


Facebook owns Whatsapp and I feel compelled to use it.


IMHO the advancements in technology related with industries in which the end product is digital (movies, animation, texts, programs, etc.,) instead of fundamental spatial services like automation of food productions, cleaning, garbage collection, house building, etc., is a direct consequence of physical space being a luxury around the world, with housing and renting prices skyrocketing.

The Garage Culture is a privilege of few.

Most working-class people are accepting to live into small boxes without space for even a table destined to drawing, reading and studying. Instead, they soon will use virtual desktops inside cheap Chinese Apple Vision Pros clones. Life will get harder and unhealthier.

While designers and some scientists know the importance of physical areas for developing certain activities, most people don't and are subjecting themselves and their children to sad living conditions.

edit: typo ("de" -> "the")


To be clear, there is plenty of space for humans on earth right now. I'm not talking about in uninhabitable places, I mean in amazing fertile locations. Real world space is a luxury because of bad regulation in places with good governments and other places having bad governments

(you didn't imply otherwise, but I know there's a common misconception that space is running out and the world is overcrowded. It's largely not true)


Those places aren't where the money is. SF can't even get homeless people to move somewhere else.


Is SF expected to have its people without homes moved somewhere else as a solution to this social problem? What a bizarre notion, unless I misunderstand you.


Where's that amazing place ? O.o


Even outside of regulations, the biggest issue is access to (well paying) jobs. There may be land available to build affordable estates in tons of areas, but there are no jobs to work there to pay for it.


You would be surprised that someone will come knocking at your door for tax even if you're a hermit or a group of people developing the land.

Land is not free, and that plus buy in is a major obstacle for the moment.

Nomadic living is hated by every state on Earth too.


I don't know about the rest of the world but most Americans live in significantly larger housing than previous generations did (that's part of why it's so expensive). SROs are basically illegal now, and "starter houses" that used to be 800 sq feet three times that size now.


I don't know if there is a concrete source of your claiming.

Even if there is, it's probably restricted to the USA.

At relevant parts of the USA, house sizes are being compressed.

Source: The New York Times

Title: The Great Compression

Date: 02/17/2024

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/17/business/economy/the-grea...

Edit: formating


That's definitely contrary to the generational trend, which is towards larger and larger houses and apartments:

https://www.ctinsider.com/living/article/column-home-size-am...


Maybe there's people thinking that now that "we" have Apple Vision Pros and Meta Quests 3, the work class can live inside small boxes.


I read that Vision Pro may the "killer device" for nuclear submarine crew members.


So, many researchers don't use terms with due care. And many article are rejected by Nature.


I don't really get the love for Nature but here is an example that uses "runtime" in this sense in Nature Computational Science

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43588-023-00589-x

Here is one in Nature Physics

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41567-023-02325-8

Here is one in Nature Precedings

https://www.nature.com/articles/npre.2011.5593.1

And here is one in Nature Communications

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-44008-1

It isn't a matter of a lack of due care - it just really really doesn't matter which term you use as long as your meaning is clear.


TIL Nature is failing to help the world to have more clear scientific communication. What a shame!


> So, many researchers don't use terms with due care. And many article are rejected by Nature.

The reason is much simpler: many (most) researchers are not native English speakers. For example, my doctoral advisor (who knows English well, but is not a native speaker) could hardly help me with questions concerning more subtle aspects of English terms used in the research area. He told me that hardly anybody cares. Even more: when you look for examples, you always have to consider the situation that a word is used wrongly because the author who comes from an arbitrary country does not know better.

Even more: sometimes I do ask native English speakers about subtle aspects of the English language. My impression from this is: while it is not uncommon among native German speakers to deeply analyze German words, various native English speakers independently told me that doing such an analysis "is not how the English language works" (or how native English speakers think about their language).


> while it is not uncommon among native German speakers to deeply analyze German words, various native English speakers independently told me that doing such an analysis "is not how the English language works" (or how native English speakers think about their language).

I'm tempted to question this idea that English speakers are just unconcerned with their own language, but then I'm not entirely sure what you have in mind when you speak of "deep [linguistic] analysis" (or a lack thereof). Can you provide an example?


For me, it was, because it was informatve and I'm tired of imprecision, terms overloading, ambiguity and indirectnesses.

Take a look at the Rust's crate.io mess, for example, where people misuse "crate" all the time.


IMHO should be coupled with some videos comparing the Roman empire with the USA empire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNv1lX9IIfU


My yahoo e-mail account was Yahoo-ed (one day, I logged in on it to find Yahho deleted all my e-mails (some of then important and others of sentimental value), due to account inactivity for a new arbitrary number of days not previously informed.


I fear this for my gmail. I now use mbsync (lieer[0]) to have my emails synced locally on my homeserver, and then browse it with notmuch[1]. It's an incredibly freeing experience to have all your email on your own machine.

0: https://github.com/gauteh/lieer

1: https://notmuch.readthedocs.io/en/latest/man1/notmuch.html


For the exact same reason I started using MacOS Mail app with gmail, but I am realising now that it doesn’t download “all” the emails unfortunately. Lieer looks like a good option, thank you.


It's a great tool, it's just agonizingly slow sometimes because Google likes to throttle the connection when you make big changes. The initial download especially is slow, but the small changes thereafter are pretty fast.


my geocities account was destroyed, putting an end to my career as webmaster. I grew a resentment towards that website


Incidentally my angel fire site is still up for some insane reason


Same! Coincidentally, I recently backed up my Angelfire site from the late '90s. A lot of the original links were missing but thankfully they provide a `sitemap.xml` and I used HTTrack to make a local copy.


Omg I haven’t heard the name Angel fire in YEARS


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