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645,000 people died due to opiate abuse while their company was promoting opiates, and their prescriptions peaked at 6.2 million prescription users pee year. Under EPA standards for damages they would be liable for trillions.

The EPA values one human life at $10M. A conservative estimate of the number of people killed by the Sackler family's companies (testified in court) was ~~245,000~~ Edit: probably at least 100,000, see below. So if opiates were environmental pollutants, the Sacklers would be on the hook for $1T in damages. Their immediate settlement was $6B.

Roughly three orders of magnitude too small.


Attributing every single opioid overdose to solely the Sackler family is so laughably ludicrous it's hard to take this comment seriously.

The number of opioid overdoses between 1999 and 2021 was 645,000, according to CDC. Purdue Pharma brought in $35B in OxyContin revenue from 1995 to 2017. OxyContin was prescribed to 6.2 million people in 2002.

I'll edit the number above to ~100,000 as an estimate of the number of victims, since it looks like I misremembered 645,000 as the number of Purdue-related deaths. Still, that's assuming only 1.6% of those 6.2 million people taking OxyContin in 2002 developed an addiction, which seems low.


ok, so now you are just arguing percentages. What is an appropriate amount of the harm to be apportioned to the Sackler family?

Disposable income of the Chinese consumer is almost all locked up in housing.



Legislation is reactive rather than proactive, slow in its reaction, easily corrupted by lobbyists, and likely contains loopholes anyway. Not to mention that competent regulation acts as a barrier to entry for competitors.


You don't seem fully serious, but the writing is probably on the wall for third party tools which integrate with GMail.

I use InboxZero through Beeminder, and could see Beeminder being locked out.


There are contractual obligations around changes to GSuite products (and their APIs).


For select users that are willing to advocate for themselves against Google and are covered under a binding, unexpired contract Google will likely let them continue using said APIs. Everyone else is likely to see APIs break at Google's whim, as most users aren't covered by custom GSuite contracts.


Contracts expire and can be not renewed.


Ideally your Gmail ought to be through a domain and services that add value via imap.

Then its impossible for the functionality to evaporate.


You are assuming they will retain imap functionality.

Ask the xmpp/jabber folks about hangouts.


Yeah I fully expect imap to disappear in the next few years. I've started migrating to domains I own for this reason.

I can see them keeping it around for enterprise for a bit longer, though.


I think it will stick around as long as it is the way the iOS Mail app connects


I don't know. Seems like an easy way to force everyone on to the iOS Gmail app. People aren't going to change their email address because it doesn't work with the iOS mail app.


I assumed nothing. If you sync regularly via imap you could switch providers tomorrow and lose nothing.


Good for you, that's the smart way to use e-mail. But most people, many of in tech and many of them knowing better, rely on GMail's web and mobile apps.

Also, unless you're using IMAP to sync the entire mailbox, you'd still lose. If your mail program only stores e.g. last 30 days of mail locally, and lets everything else live on the mailserver, then you'd only have 30 days worth of e-mails left.


This would be assuming that google opted to drop imap with zero warning AND you weren't smart enough to sync all your mail.

The first is out of character for google and the second is totally within your control.

All your mail is for most people merely GB at most per user.


Uh, you realize that imap support has been in GMail for its entire history?


Google Talk had XMPP support for its entire history... until they killed it


So?

Doesn’t mean they can’t get rid of it.


Getting rid of say outlook support would greatly weaken Gmail.

Furthermore if you have an up to date sync on the day imap support ends then you have all your email and need face only changing over to a new address or if you already use a custom domain logging on and changing the email provider.


They make it really difficult to use your Gmail account with K9 Mail. You have to jump through a bunch of hoops and "critical security warnings" for attempting to sign in with a non-Google app.


It feels like Google search is already curated. At home I cannot find academic articles which appeared in the search at work, because my girlfriend trained the home's recommendation engine on searches for cute cat pictures and domestic things. In DuckDuckGo, at least I know I will be able to find the same results for the same search terms no matter where I am.


Wow, I agree. Lately I've noticed search sometimes just pops in websites just because I visited it from a previous search, relevancy be damned! and it suuuuuucks.


I seem to be able to find a much more limited selection of content than I used to in the past. It used to be that even obscure search queries turned up something useful, but now you either get nothing or the same old big or commercial sites. There has to be tons of content out there that Google just can't seem to find anymore.


There was a discussion about exactly that here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19604135

Ironically I could not find this link via DDG, but it was the first hit on Google.


Matbe it’s cuz google knows you frequent hacker news....


I used site:news.ycombinator.com on both engines


Use a VPN in a private VM.


Use a VPN in a private VM so you can use Google and get decent search results?

Is your response satire?

I want to believe it is.


What can I say? I mean, it works.

Using Google via VPN services, there are many other users. Occasionally someone's been a jerk, and Google gives you the stinkeye. But then you switch to a different server.

I added "private VM" in case OP was sharing a machine with his girlfriend. But really, it's always prudent to use VPNs from dedicated VMs. Because that compartmentalizes tracking. And using VMs also simplifies managing machine state. You can use a fresh clone for each session, for example. Or boot from a static image.

I like DDG and StartPage, for sure. But sometimes I just gotta use Google.


It’s not, I do something similar. Google results are just that much better for certain content I have found


Or, duck duck go with the g! prefix, if you really must use google with bubbling turned off (instead of a reasonable alternative).


DDG isn't magic. It doesn't bubble you on its own results (or at least it claims not to), but it can't change how external providers behave.


Sadly, in this day and age, a good, usable search engine that does not enclose you into your own bubble is magic.


Using !s will proxy through Startpage, so you get Google results through an actual search proxy instead of just going to Google (I don't think !g "un-bubbles" anything).


Or, you know, you can just create a separate user in the OS. Or even just create a separate browser user profile (for Chrome, Firefox has it as well)


Setting preferences really should not be shocking, given that they have the capacity to run automatic updates. I'm more surprised that they can push code without certificates.


The expires certificate seems to be in a chain concerning extensions. Not necessarily the same chain concerning core browser updates...


> I'm more surprised that they can push code without certificates.

Where are you getting this from? AFAIK all Mozilla code / prefs they can push should be signed -- this very issue seems to stem from the cert used to sign AMO extensions expired.


Unfortunately, the code in this book uses a modified version of scheme which is no longer maintained.


There is a racket port; I do not know how complete it is, though a quick look at the open issues suggests not all the pieces are there yet: https://github.com/bennn/mechanics

The most recent version of `scmutils` I see is from 2016: https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/gjs/6946/linux-instal... and https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/gjs/6946/scmutils-tar...

Edit: There seems to be quite a few ports to various languages: https://github.com/search?q=scmutils No idea how many are fully featured/tested.


Looks like MIT Scheme (on which the ScmUtils system runs) still gets some regular maintainence releases, though I don't know how active development is these days:

https://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/ https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mit-scheme/stable.pkg/

Installation instructions for the ScmUtils package:

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/gjs/6946/index.html

As far as I know, Gerry and Jack still teach the course every year (can someone currently at MIT verify?) and still use the system.



Good to hear! Please say hi to everyone. I used to hang out in the group back when it was still at Tech^2.


I had assumed it was being done in Python https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14167453


Nope, that's just the 'intro to programming' class. The class for this book is "Classical Mechanics: A Computational Approach" (I think) and it's definitely still taught in Scheme.


While I'm glad to hear that, how does that work given that the students presumably won't have been taught Scheme from SCIP beforehand? Is it just a given that students taking the class learned Scheme on their own?


Thanks, I had assumed the intro class changing would signal a comprehensive shift.


I maintain a port to Clojure https://github.com/littleredcomputer/sicmutils

I haven't done much with it recently but have plans in the back of my mind for when I have more free time.


Thanks, this is a nice port!

I worked through SICM using sicmutils as a backup. The MIT Scheme version sometimes "locked up" on my solutions to exercises and sicmutils did not (the Foucault pendulum problem comes to mind).

This video is an introduction to SICM and sicmutils:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PoajCqNKpg


I'm so glad it was helpful.

We have some Jupyter notebooks, e.g. https://github.com/littleredcomputer/sicmutils/blob/master/j...

One on the Foucault pendulum sounds like it would make a nice addition. Perhaps it could be done in a way that wouldn't spoil the exercise.


I agree, the Foucault example would make a good Juypter demonstration. Showing the pendulum in 3D with a 2D projection (like a Spirograph) of the motion on the ground would be especially nice, as in:

https://demonstrations.wolfram.com/FoucaultsPendulum/

This might be possible in a Jupyter notebook with WebGL.



that isn’t true. you can go install it now on linux, mac os x, or windows subsytem for linux, and it runs just fine. and it still gets some updates.


Global Entry is a TSA program you can apply for. The TSA charges a fee of 100 USD and runs an in person interview.

Edit: those under investigation, warrants, or charged with crimes are not elligible. Neither are those with passports from outside major US allies (India Colombia UK Germany Panama Singapore Korea Switzerland Taiwan Mexico Canada)


Global Entry is not a TSA program and it normally requires a physical travel document to use the GE kiosks. Curious that there is now a facial recognition-only kiosk.

Edit: looks like this in MIA? https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/global-e...


I think part of the issue is that tech salaries are insane in SF and NYC, everywhere else and every other field salaries are not increasing. I was looking at engineering postdocs and the typical salary is 50k. For bio postdocs it's 35k. You can make more than that as a farmhand.


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