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This reminds me a Futurama quote: "Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 20th century? Fry: Well, sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games, and on buses, and milk cartons, and T-shirts, and bananas, and written on the sky... But not in dreams."


I think he is referring to "U.S. spied on Merkel and other Europeans through Danish cables - broadcaster DR" story.


Cables is a tiny part of it. Cables were a diplomatic nightmare but just a tiny percentage of overall spying activity.


Ukraine applied to integrate with a NATO Membership Action Plan (MAP) in 2008. On 20 September 2018 the Ukrainian parliament approved amendments to the constitution that would make the accession of the country to NATO and the EU a central goal and the main foreign policy objective. In other words, Ukraine has a lot to do with NATO. Also, NATO Membership Action Plan involved Georgia.


> On 20 September 2018 the Ukrainian parliament approved amendments to the constitution that would make the accession of the country to NATO and the EU a central goal and the main foreign policy objective.

That definitely came out of nowhere and not because Russian soldiers occupied Crimea and effectively occupied east of Ukraine. Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons and Russia was one of the guarantors of Ukraine’s sovereignty.

And regardless of all of this, Ukraine is a sovereign nation and can do whatever the f””” it wants.


Cuba is a sovereign nation, it can install missiles. Oh, wait..


Good example, US didn’t invade under DIRECT threat of nuclear missiles on Cuba’s soil.

Ukraine signed Budapest memorandum in 1994 and willingly gave up nukes for security assurances (ironically Russia is one of the guarantees).


There was no invasion because Soviets removed Cuban missiles and Kennedy promised to remove U.S. missiles from Turkey (the missiles being there is the reason for the crisis in the first place).


QED.


This time It is unlikely that NATO stops the bully-favorite "did you step on my foot" game.

So there is no choice for Russia: fight or be dismembered.


Opinion that I find to be usefull on this: The surveillance balloons are very, very difficult to destroy, the aircraft's radar cannot see them, they fly almost in space at altitudes up to 25 km, they are painted in the color of the sky, or even transparent like jellyfish. Reflective surface is less than any of stealth planes. For any sane results, you need a dedicated aircraft with a special weapons set for destroying this thing. Missiles with a thermal homing head and special anti-aerostatic incendiary tracer shells, with a special fuse that is triggered when the thin shell of the balloon touches. This fuse is also triggered by raindrops, so it's better not to shoot them in the rain. Rockets, on the other hand, capture the heated sunny side of the balloon with their clever thermal head. Secondly, as a rule, one hit is not enough(due to the cell structure of balloon). Balloon doesn't give a fuck about shell holes, it will slowly descend to where it needs to go for thousands of kilometers dropping ballast more often. And by the way, he can also bang on a lucky hit and take the plane with him.


Nonsense, they have been tracking this thing since before it hit US airspace, through Alaska and Canada, they know exactly where it is and can take it out at any time they want.


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https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/...

"And, I'm sorry, how long have we been tracking it. I'm not going to go into all the details because I don't want to reveal sensitive information. But I will say we have been tracking it for some time. And we have had custody of it the entire time it has been over U.S. airspace, entered the continental United States airspace a couple of days ago."


I can believe that they've been tracking it for awhile, but it is unlikely that they can easily shoot it down. We probably literally don't have the technical capacity to do so reliably at this time.


It has been shot down.


Ah yes, what source could be more trustworthy than SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: ? Thank you!


No no, lets trust ANONYMOUS_!HACKERNEWS_USER_001 instead


If you Google part of his comment and add "Chinese spy balloon" to it you can find a plethora of articles. If I could choose between his and your petty little comment I would take his every time.


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lmao to keep in style with ur theme


Out of top of my head this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOS-1) can destroy such target.


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