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That's why I pirate everything. Originally I tried purchasing music files (iTunes) with the hope of it supporting musicians I liked. When it was a lesser, hindered experience, I switched back to pirating everything, still do, and always will.

>Apple level of polish.

Absurd claim given the untenable OS release cadence under Tim Cook.

"But better than M$" is still undeserving of the lofty implication from "level of polish".


I’ve used windows and macOS side by side for over a decade, and macOS BY FAR has a greater level of polish than windows, which to this day is relatively unstable. I haven’t had myself or a relative experience an OS-level crash in macOS in like five years years. Meanwhile, troubleshooting a family member’s BSOD is a regular occurrence.

> Apple level of polish

- I can't tell if my macbook is charging or not while the lid is closed. There is no light indicator - minimize/maximize buttons are very small given that I am using a the touchpad. I am not saying they are unsuably small but far from ideal. - If I fully deplete the battery. I cannot immediatly turn it on with adapter's power. Why? Every windows laptop can be run with adapter even with a dead battery.

> BSOD is a regular occurrence

I hate windows as much as the next guy, but are you really getting BSOD in 2025?

I like linux and I know its not exactly polished but it offers something as a trade off which neither MacOS nor Windows do.


> If I fully deplete the battery. I cannot immediatly turn it on with adapter's power. Why? Every windows laptop can be run with adapter even with a dead battery.

First you should not be depleting modern batteries, its not good for the battery health, or indeed storage health, recall that solid-state storage integrity is not guaranteed in the absence of electrical current (a reminder to those who have a habit of backing up stuff onto SSDs, unplugging them and forgetting about them for extended time periods).

Second, if you think about it, its a safety feature in to protect you from data corruption.

If they let you turn on a machine with a fully-depleted battery and you immediately yank out the power cord, then you risk data corruption.

Sure, modern solid-state storage (at least the high quality implementations) have power-loss-protection. But that relies on capacitors. And to charge up capacitors, you need what ... oh yeah, that's right, electricity .... ;-)

So that is most likely why Apple require you to have a minimal charge before allowing you to power-on from completely depleted.

And to be honest, what are you bitching about anyway. Most Apple devices I use only require a 5–10 minute charge from completely depleted to get you to the minimum required. So just go make a cup of coffee and remind yourself not to completely deplete batteries in the future.


I'm sure people running out of batteries in the middle of a zoom call or a presentation especially enjoy waiting an additional 5-10 minutes before being able to continue.

> people running out of batteries in the middle of a zoom call or a presentation

I would remind those sorts of people of the 5 P's ...

Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance

Starting a zoom or presentation on low battery is just a fucking stupid thing to do. There's no other way to put it.


It doesn't matter how stupid it is, the OS shouldn't make it any worse even so.

> First you should not be depleting modern batteries, its not good for the battery health,

I think most modern devices already turn themselves off before reaching true ZERO.

> Second, if you think about it, its a safety feature in to protect you from data corruption.

No its to make sure that you can not use a perfectly functional compouter without replacing a battery once it has fully died.

> I use only require a 5–10 minute charge

Are you saying apple devices are not good for watching live content?

> You risk data corruption

With autosave (which most app have) data loss would be minimal.

Before I could afford apple products, from afar everything apple looked amazing but after using them I found out, Apple UI is just pretty and only slightly more polished than Windows.


> There is no light indicator

Counter point: Light indicators are ugly and usually unnecessary. Most people charge overnight, and don't want/need a light in their face.


> Counter point: Light indicators are ugly and usually unnecessary

And if you really must have an ugly and un-necessary light indicator, Apple have an answer for that....

Do not charge off USB-C, instead buy an Apple magsafe charger. That comes with a little indicator light on the end of the cord.

Alternatively, if you are charging off USB-C all you have to do on a powered mac is to look at the battery indicator in the menu bar.


Not saying Apple is great but for me MS UX has been an utter crap, both in managed corp env and on a personal device.

You mean Tim “Apple intelligence” Cook

Ha ha


Big respect to OpenBSD. Now all it needs is a FS with ZFS's core capabilities and it'll be almost perfect.

> /really weird/

That's only if you take CoC enjoyers at their word. It makes perfect sense when you realize it's not about advancing project or community, but rather controlfreak ideology.


a.) They found it off-putting that OpenBSD was "proud" not to have a CoC, in the context of whether they would choose to work with them or to host the website themselves. Consider taking a moment to read the passage in question: https://isopenbsdsecu.re/about/

This idea they were surprised a project succeeded without having a CoC is an artefact of this particular discussion, not something the author ever said or implied. It was in the same category as de Raadt swearing at people over email - they didn't anticipate a productive exchange if they reached out. That's it.

If someone declares they reserve the right to treat people however they please, and then you observe them treating people in a way you don't want to be treated, and your conclusion is, "I don't think emailing this person is a good use of my time, I'm just going to host this website myself" - I find it hard to understand how anyone would find that objectionable, that seems simple, common sense, and largely neutral.

b.) Whenever you have a large group of people collaborating for an extended period of time, you have incidents. There's drama. There's inappropriate behavior. It's just how it goes. It's a Murphy's Law thing.

Eventually people sit down and say, "we've gotta set some ground rules." You probably signed a code of conduct at every school you attended and every job you've accepted. I know I have.

You can disagree with that without viewing it as a conspiracy. It's a predictable result of being in a large community, and about as ideological as traffic lights.


I did read the page in question… You talk like it would be any different with the linux kernel. A CoC doesn’t govern whether you’re entitled to a productive discussion with the big maintainer. Theo swearing at one person cannot be extrapolated to swearing at all people. And in linux’s case it apparently doesn’t prevent good contributions from getting stonewalled and shunned (to the point of turning contributors away) by righteous zealots in the community anyway.

If you read the page then I don't understand why you continue to mischaracterize what it says. Eg, the page offers multiple examples of de Raadt swearing at people, which you characterize as "swearing at one person." Frankly, it makes me doubt your candor.

I was speaking rhetorically. I don't mean to imply there’s only one i stance of swearing. Anyway that’s not even the point. We know Theo is abrasive. It also makes good security. Weird to complain about “the community” on a page evangelizing the success of said community. If the author doesn't want to dive into the mailing list then good for them. Leave it at that.

You weren't speaking rhetorically, you were mischaracterizing what the author said to weaken their statement. That's the most charitable way to describe it without parting from the facts.

> If the author doesn't want to dive into the mailing list then good for them. Leave it at that.

They did leave it at that.


I was not. You can believe me or not.

And no, the author whined about how he doesn’t like the icky openbsd community very much arguably out of place. (There are multiple people who have mentioned they think it’s out of place, at least.) That’s not leaving it at that. Leaving it at that implies no further action.


I believe you when you say you made no error and that it was part of your rhetorical strategy. The problem is that your rhetorical strategy was to mischaracterize the author's statement in order to weaken it. That's dishonest. Saying "that was merely rhetorical" doesn't magically make it not dishonest. (This is on top of your earlier mischaracteiztion that they were "surprised" a project succeeded without a CoC, which I presumed was a mistake caused by a game of telephone in this discussion until you implied that wasn't the case. I can't take you at your word when you have mischaracterized the author multiple times then doubled down.)

If you had said, "oh, that was a mistake, I didn't mean to imply they had extrapolated from a single instance," then I would've believed you then, too.

They made a side note in an "about" page. You're making a mountain out of a pebble. The author made a minor note about their thought process, you have been complaining about it and have now crossed into personal attacks on them. "Whining" is not a stone you ought to be throwing.


You’ve got a lot to learn around here butter. Good luck!

Don't we all have a lot to teach and a lot to learn?

Same to you, have a good one.


Ironic.

It's the latter.

Of course it is.

Covering for Muslim terrorism.


>The complete lack of any kind of technological understanding by the people in power

Naive implication. They're authoritarian henchmen.


Now try with the n-word.


LEDs produce trash light and I'm certain it'll eventually be linked to serious damage to human eyesight. Strobing alone is a nightmare, not to mention color temp like prison yard blue in street lights and car headlights.


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