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I am a bit confused on how they are doing it. As a developer I sign up and put my app on sale. I decide the number of units I want to sell. Buyers buy it through the website. Now how do the buyers get the actual app?


Hi,

My name is Matt G and I work with appbackr. The backr is purchasing units number one to say one thousand. The developer gets paid a wholesale rate immediately while the backr will profit as the app sales via itunes. We hope that the backr and the developer work together to help the units sell and the app to get more downloads. The developer will always own the IP. Hope that makes sense. e-mail me and I can explain more. Cheers - matthew@appbackr.com


I think that is why they have kept it. It will give them insanely high publicity. Moreover, I think they might be able to keep it too. It's not like Oracle sued Matrix team for having an Oracle. :)

Also, to the people who are saying images are not displayed in most of the email clients, browsers, don't forget smartphones where there is no option of blocking images.


Gmail on my smartphone (running Froyo) doesn't load images. In fact it has a "Show pictures" button which I must explicitly press to load images.


Android 1.6 on my G1 loads the following content before I click "Show Pictures":

iframes

inline css style tags with an @import option.

external css style tags

object embed tags

It also honours meta refresh tags and opens the standard web browser entire automatically just by viewing the email.

Can you please test Froyo using my app at https://secure.grepular.com/email_privacy_tester/

I'd be interested to know if all of these flaws still exist in newer versions of Android...


Just submitted to test. Should I get an email?


You should, unless your spam filter blocks it...?


The iPhone Mail app has a "load remote images" option that's off by default.


I thought it was on by default? I'm sure it used to be? The iPhone used to load remote content from <video> and <audio> tags even when "load remote images" was disabled. Fixed now though. I think.


zferral seems to be a good option for affiliates who will continuously market your product. I am looking for a system which can help me release campaigns to my existing users. For example, if they post about my product with my link provided on twitter/facebook or simply email it to their friends and their friends purchase the product, I should be notified so that I can provide the offer to my existing user.


Hey Jeff Epstein, founder of zferral here..

zferral was actually built to enable companies to easily create their own affiliate or referral programs.

Nearly all of our clients use their custom program to create incentives for their own customers.

Remember, your current happy (paying) customers are your best advocates. We provide the tools for you to reward them to promote your product.

Anyone can feel free to email me with questions (or call). I'm happy to chat.


This is good for now, but, I wont be surprised if they start generating leads and doing affiliate marketing for shoes/apparel.


You should blog this one too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1633062


try http://www.mygola.com Sounds perfect for this kind of a thing.


no iPod touch update? I was hoping they will at least have a camera in the iPod touch added.


The iPod line is usually updated at its own event in September. I expect to see an iPod with a front facing camera then.


iPod touches are traditionally updated when the iPod line is refreshed in the fall.


If they added a camera, then you might not have a reason to buy an iPhone.



I think its mostly because there are not many NEW users. I would guess that more than 75% of iPad users own an iPhone or an iPod Touch.


I don't understand why people are jumping back in the band-wagon. Facebook has shown its intention, clearly. Reverting back is only a temporary solution.


What were their intentions... to trick people with their security settings? Perhaps they just didn't take enough time to plan out the settings the first time around.


You really think a huge company full of lawyers and an entire office in DC dedicated to privacy & policy messed up because they were in a hurry? Trust me, there's not a single setting in the old design that wasn't vetted by a pile of lawyers and policy wonks.


I will give them the benefit of the doubt until someone proves that wrong. Right now, all you have is assumptions to rely on.


What I don't have to assume is that FaceBook has repeatedly made big privacy-impacting changes without consulting its users. This is the third major overreach/retreat. Three incidents is enough to realize that taking privacy seriously is not part of the company's DNA.


Their intentions are to make butt load of money. The only way they can do it is by selling users data one way or another. One of the main reasons I user facebook is to keep in touch with my friends and know what they are doing without having to do much. Big announcements or happenings are also passed on through facebook, nowadays, which is fine. However, this information is just between friends. Unless, they somehow make most of this information public, I dont see a way for them to make loads of money. They have a funding of $716M and a lot of it at $12B evaluation. What else are they going to do?


Facebook doesn't require you to make your data public to target ads to you. Advertisers don't ever see your actual data -- they target to demographics, and Facebook acts as the intermediary, displaying those ads to the appropriate users. Here's a related FAQ: http://www.facebook.com/help/?topic=privacyupdate


So, are you saying that instant personalization was adding no value to their revenues? Making status updates public was in no-way an answer to twitter and generate a real-time news source? Linking interests to direct pages otherwise blank pages was making them no money? I know you work for FB, and it seems a lot of fb employees are following this thread and trying to generate a positive vibe. I am not against FB, but the way they have done things lately, it is almost impossible for me to believe that they wont do it again. I was one of those people who used to post things without thinking much on fb, and now I have completely stopped. Hopefully, every user will understand and would start treating it as a public forum.


Of course the things you're suggesting will allow Facebook to add features to the product, and indirectly perhaps add revenue.

That is very different from this: "The only way they can do it is by selling users data one way or another.". People often claim that Facebook wants to "sell" your data to advertisers, and I'm simply saying that claim is wrong.

(I've never been secretive about the fact that I worked at Facebook, it's on my profile. )


The problem here is that FB makes more money by making user profiles more public. They have shown it already. And, I doubt you will disagree with me on this fact.

Now, you can argue that making private information public to generate revenues is not selling, however, IMO, it is, given the fact that they started out as a completely private social network.


The more content is private the fewer pages of targeted advertising Facebook will serve. So if everything was private facebook would make less money.

By tricking users into making more information public they get more hits and get more opportunities to 'share' your data with 3rd parties.


Which part of "Facebook doesn't require you to make your data public to target ads to you." are you disagreeing with?


I didn't disagree with that statement. I'm just explaining why Facebook wants users to "share" more data.

What is your explanation for why facebook removed the ability to make your profile picture private to non-friends?


Here is Facebook's explanation: http://www.facebook.com/privacy/explanation.php#basicinfo

Basically, if your profile picture were private, it would be hard for someone (who is your friend/acquaintance in real life) who isn't friends with you (on Facebook) already to find you on the site.


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