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If it's in your control use co-prime scheduling. If it's not in your control, um... Hope they didn't use co-primes? Or a multiple of your co-primes? Er, yeah. I see the justification for doing it, but it's not exactly a cure for complexity. It'll work up until everyone else catches up with your weird trick, and then there might be may be more collisions than there were before.

Edit: Yeah, I guess GP said "if you control everything". Still, how often do you actually control everything? Or how long can you control everything? Everything (heh) sufficiently complex to worry about this talks with other systems at some point, right?


I think you underestimate how badly people mess this up now, with piles and piles of cron jobs and timers all configured to run at 1/5/15/60 minute intervals.

If other things did this there would not be "more collisions", since the status quo is multiples of 5 minute intervals everywhere.


Fair point. I'll definitely consider co-primes the next time I deploy a system with complicated scheduling.

for what it's worth, it also comes in super handy when trying to troubleshoot existing systems. Running a complicated system that has weird latency spikes sometimes at a 60s interval and the config file has like:

  - timeout: 1m
  - expireInterval: 1m
  - updateInterval: 5m
  - etc
The first thing I do is go in and change them all to

  - timeout: 59s
  - expireInterval: 61s
  - updateInterval: 307s
  - etc
and then see what the new "problem interval" is. It's either gone, because the spike was from contention from all 3 jobs running every 5 minutes, or the new problem occurs now at 61s intervals.

My uncle gifted me a copy of this book when I took a job in academia. (How he knew of it I have no idea; he was no academic.) It's written in a very arch manner - it doesn't telegraph its jokes, like, at all - but it's hilarious, largely because it's (still!) full of dead-on observations about how academic (or maybe just organizational?) politics works. Highly recommend, if you have a long attention span and enough experience or interest to appreciate the satire.

Edit to add, since I couldn't help skimming the first few pages, whilst grinning wryly to myself. This is gold :

> are you not aware that conviction has never yet been produced by an appeal to reason, which only makes people uncomfortable? If you want to move them, you must address your arguments to prejudice and the political motive.

The bit on committee meetings is too long to quote, but oh god, everyone will recognize it.


I agree with the sibling posts about escalation and so forth, but your numbers also don't capture customer recruitment. I'm fortunate enough to live within Sonic's catchment area in the Bay Area, and have just moved the company for which I'm responsible over to 100% Sonic. My advocacy for them is 85% based on their superlative tech support, and our new business account will pay for half of one of those "truly cares" engineers. I'm damn happy to do it. Incidentally, I think I've persuaded three or four neighbors to switch to (residential) Sonic, and one professional contact to set up a business account for his company.

I think good customer support/relations has to be committed to for reasons that don't immediately show up on spreadsheets, with the trust that they will pay long-term dividends. I realize that is antithetical to The Way Things Work Now, but in both my personal and professional lives I try only to do business with companies that agree.


> It would never have been enough, not for Williams nor the board, for Sierra to have levelled out as, say, a boutique producer of high-quality adventure games.

Why not?!?

It seems like everyone in this story - Roberta, people who love games, (most especially) the employees who lost their savings, and even Ken - would be happier today if they had continued earning an honest profit doing what they did best. The scramble for more, more, MORE undid them all.

There's wisdom in the proverb "the love of money is the root of all evil". This story is a cautionary tale.


It’s hard to turn down the prospect of making your and all your employees/shareholders investments pay off. In fact, many of them would probably angry if they heard you did that. The potential for an exit is one reason they worked for you and not bigco who pays more. And you didn’t get whatever success you had by ignoring opportunities that presented themselves.

This wasn't an "exit" though -- the company was already public, and had been for 7 years!

It was "just" an offer with a large premium over the current stock price.


I read "Exit" as "F--- you money", not ... well I'm not sure what you view "Exit" as if you exclude a big paycheck.

Was it F-you money for most employees, though? Sure, it was a 60% premium over the current stock price, in CUC stock which promptly dropped after the announcement.

So I suppose if you were sitting on 300k in equity it was now worth 480k, but it's not like going from illiquid paper wealth to a liquidity event...and given the company's growth trajectory it seemed likely at the time that it would get there in a year or two on its own, without a (risky) acquisition.

Dunno, doesn't seem like a slam-dunk case of F-you money to me.


I dont think an "Exit", as is commonly understood, implies that all employees get rich.

Exits are for founders / top-level guys.


Alright, but the founders here were already liquidly rich from their IPO? At lease one of the execs (Roberta) was super opposed.

They didn't do it for the personal money, they did it because they thought their shareholders would sue them, at least in part, for turning out a deal that was too good to be true.


Assuming you know what the shareholders and founders and execs were thinking, then yeah - that might not qualify for my definition of exit

Well, that’s what they’re quoted as saying in the article!

He should just have asked for all-cash transaction. I think it is fair. If they don't want to sell the company stock and buy the company with cash, or at least make an offer, then there is likelihood that there is some kind of fraud going on.

Easy to say in hindsight, but using stock to pay for a merger is common. Most companies are not carrying a big chunk of their value in cash (it’s not capital-efficient). Therefore buying anything sizable for cash will require the combined company to take on debt. So a stock-for-stock merger can result in a combined company that has a safer balance sheet. If the acquiree believes the merger is a good idea, they might consider owning stock in the merged entity to be a good thing. If nobody is offering them a competitive offer in cash, they don’t have much leverage to ask for it anyway. Even if you value the stock offer with some discount for risk, it can still be attractive.

It need not be a pure debt transaction, the combined company can sell stock to the public rather than the shareholders of the old company who may suddenly feel the need to liquidate.

This is why with my personal companies, I've always avoided issuing shares or giving equity to employees. It handcuffs you.

Note that I'm not saying that others who don't avoid those things are wrong -- they're not at all. They just have different business goals and priorities than I.


No. An unprecedent fraud undid them all. And nobody saw it coming. It took two insiders to roll over before anything came to light (ref: Cendant).

As many people point out, the CEO has some level of fiduciary duty to investors. If you refuse an offer with a 40% or so premium, you are going to be facing down lawsuits.

Finally, while Roberta was enjoying her position, Ken really wanted to quit all of the CEO crap. Finding a CEO to hand things over to is just as fraught as a buyout and probably more likely to bump into bad actors than a buyout.

Put it all together and there really was no good reason to refuse the buyout. If the purchasing company hadn't been a fraud, we'd be lauding the decision to sell instead of castigating it.


> As many people point out, the CEO has some level of fiduciary duty to investors. If you refuse an offer with a 40% or so premium, you are going to be facing down lawsuits.

I think a simple way to avoid this is to ask for a all-cash offer. Naturally it will be either non-existant or much smaller value. If the offer is still good, it is not a problem to accept it.

The problem here was that the sellers were accepting stock as a payment, which was garbage.


I don't think that would tell them much. All-cash requires that the acquiring company either have that cash on hand, go into (further?) debt, or sell new shares to the public to raise the money. Legitimate M&A deals that are in part or even entirely in stock are very common. A refusal to accept anything but an all-cash deal would certainly weed out a fraudster like this one, but it would also eliminate a host of good deals, too.

> No. An unprecedent fraud undid them all.

It was plain old accounting fraud.

> And nobody saw it coming.

Nothing to see if you do not look.

> Put it all together and there really was no good reason to refuse the buyout.

He claimed he did it to secure Sierras financial future, but didn't see it as an issue when CUC refused to share its financial data.

It might be a hindsight thing, but it seems that at least nowadays larger companies spend a lot of time going over finances and other economic data before they agree to that kind of deal.

> If the purchasing company hadn't been a fraud

They could have been completely honest and still been in a state where the buyout itself would have been enough to break both. Wouldn't be the first time a company overextended itself.


>If you refuse an offer with a 40% or so premium, you are going to be facing down lawsuits.

not if the offer is all garbage stock

> Ken really wanted to quit all of the CEO crap.

Article contradicts that spending a lot of paragraphs on Ken fighting for position in new company.

>there really was no good reason to refuse the buyout

Nobody looked for one, nobody wanted to find one due to greed. Otherwise they would be balls deep in CUCks books.


re: Ken and the ceo -- Ken is desperate for people not to understand Ken is an idiot. The article even points out everyone at Sierra told him not to do it.

You're taking the right angle with greed (1 Timothy 6:9-11). But I think it goes beyond that:

> Williams wasn’t a game designer, but a visionary who saw the company always moving forward, leading the market with other genres, other software, online worlds connecting every kind of person. That Sierra is instead remembered, basically entirely, for these 2D adventure games from the eighties and nineties is, he says, because the company was killed.

With respect to Ken, I think his ambition outstripped his ability. He prided his company on being something it wasn't, and himself being something he wasn't either. Sierra had to be something big, he had to be something big; his favored fraudster knew exactly how to exploit that self-illusion. In reality, Ken's own wife hints that Ken was struggling as CEO even before selling, e.g. failing to see through people, over-relying on lieutenants when making decisions, etc.

For all the talk of murdering Sierra, I find it interesting Ken doesn't name the culprit. Not the fraudster or his cronies. I think that's because Ken is the one who let them in his house.


Maybe you've also read his self-published autobiography, but his character flaws are front and centre. He's explicit about his vanity and overconfidence, painfully honest about personal snubs from Gates etc. He comes across as a permanent outsider, just one of those people who never acts on any feedback. So I think he knows.

If you loved the company, it's a very interesting book.


> He prided his company on being something it wasn't

To be fair to Sierra, some of their final acts were publishing Half Life, Homeworld, and an expansion for Diablo. They may well have become an enormous publisher if not for the CUC mess.


Re: homeworld, it was one of the greatest games of the 1990s and I remain delighted that it received sequels and a refresh. I have nothing but fond memories of the series and still play it regularly

Everyone but Ken, yes. Sierra could have been Cyan https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40404054 Two successful games 25 years ago and they are still around.

Ken ambitions killed Sierra, Ken wanted that G5. This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr9_GfeoCjk [Tropic Thunder Tom Cruise Dancing to Flo Rida Low] is an accurate reenactment of how Walter Forbes lured Ken Williams into selling


Sierra was never a single studio, they were always a publisher too. That's a big difference from Cyan.

I would say that if you ever take your company public that you don't own it anymore, it is now owned by the whims of the marketplace as a whole.

Or, to combine your and the OPs points: if you take your company public, you will have to live by the rules of "the love of money". It's also the love of money that ultimately led to Sierra (the more creative company) being killed in favor of Davidson/Blizzard (the more business-savvy company) while they were owned by CUC and then Vivendi.

For clarity's sake, the proverb is:

"The love of money is the root of all kinds of evils."


Latin Vulgate: radix enim omnium malorum est cupiditas

"root of all evil" or "root of all evils" would seem to be more precise translations than "root of all kinds of evils".

The Russian Synodal bible gives: ибо корень всех зол есть сребролюбие which would translate to "root of all evils"


As long as it is quoted with the part that says "For the love of money is..." as opposed to merely "Money is..." -- this part is frequently omitted.

Seems like it depends on which translation of the Bible you're using. I personally prefer 'the root of all evil', which looks like it's the King James version (and perhaps others)[1].

[1] https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%206...


Anything based off of the Latin Vulgate is almost certainly going to say "root of all evil" but translations off of the Greek may differ here.

It's not a proverb, it's a scripture in the Bible. 1 Timothy 6:10 and you and OP are both right, depending on the translation at play.

NIV Bible: "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil..."

KJV Bible: "For the love of money is the root of all evil..."


"Scripture" can be proverb. There's a whole bit of the Christian Bible helpfully labeled "Proverbs", is there not?

I was intrigued by the idea (elsewhere in the thread) that the root difference is translation from the vulgate vs translation from Greek, though I don't have the background to evaluate the claim. Regardless, absent really good reasoning I'll defer to the KJV, for reasons of historical importance and literary quality. So many phrases in the NIV (and other modern versions) set my teeth on edge.


Here's the greek: ῥίζα γὰρ πάντων τῶν κακῶν ἐστιν ἡ φιλαργυρία.

Crude translation almost word for word: 'root of all the evil is the greed'.


Thanks for that. It's been decades since I took Biblical Greek, but I still recognize a couple of words! I don't see the justification for the NIV's addition of "all kinds".

The translation process would have gone:

1) root of all evil is greed [eliminate non-English articles]

2) greed is root of all evil [swap to SVO syntax]

3) greed is the root of all evil [add required English article]

4) The love of money is the root of all evil ["translate" the vocabulary word into simpler terms]

There simply isn't any more faithful way to render that thought. You could stop at step three, but the KJV's genius lies in what a small vocabulary it uses. (I just checked: "greed" appears nowhere in the KJV, so the word was on the hit list.) The goal was to make the text understandable to the broadest audience possible - the vast majority of whom, at the time, were uneducated. That the translators were able to maintain that constraint while also creating something of incredible literary power is awe inspiring.

If you want to break it down a bit further, the phrasing in step three puts two stressed syllables ("greed is") together, which can be awkward, while the final version puts the verse into an iambic pattern (unstressed syllable preceding a stressed syllable), which rolls off the tongue much easier. The word "evil" then reverses that, which breaks the rhythm and calls attention to the end of the thought. (And, maybe, if you want to get especially literary or theological about it, provides a subtle commentary on the nature of evil.) It's so good.


It's a reference to Ecclesiastes (5:10) and Diogenes (Lives of Eminent Philosophers, VI.2 stanza 50), both probably well known by Timothy and the jews he was evangelising among. I'm not sure whether Diogenes used the word philargyria and can't be bothered to try and dig it up, but I think it's a rather literal translation of Ecclesiastes which has something like 'o-heb kesep', 'he who loves silver'.

Hebrew and aramaic doesn't have a word that directly translates to greed, but the meaning of philargyria is related to money rather than the metal and Ecclesiastes obviously describes 'love of silver' as a form of addiction and that's what Paul (or whoever actually wrote the epistle) had in mind when he wrote to Timothy and the jews he hung around with.


Thanks. I knew about the Old Testament reference, but not the Diogenes one. New Testament references to extra-scriptural texts are fascinating, and (in my experience, at least) mostly ignored in exegeses by biblical scholars within religious traditions.

Sometimes half is worth more than the whole

It's a pretty amazing combination of greed and stupidity.

> “They hated it,” he remembers of the board’s reaction. “Because we were on a roll. We were unstoppable at that point.” If it was an acquisition where Sierra would retain control, that’d be one thing, but a merger with three major developers under a parent with no software experience? "It was beyond bad inside Sierra."

Fundamentally, dude took stock. Which, unlike cash, made him and the shareholders dependent on ongoing competent execution, from a coupon company that was going to merge multiple software companies and magically continue shipping excellent software. When people asked what expertise does a coupon company have at shipping multiple types of software, it turns out the real answer was their expertise was selling to greedy fools. Pretty good expertise!


I can corroborate. I grew up somewhere where we heard cougars regularly (for those of you who don't know, they scream at night - it's a distinctive, spooky sound), and spent a lot of time in the woods. My ambition was to spot one, but though I found scat and paw prints and deer I was pretty sure they'd killed I never saw one in the flesh.

A neighbor found one dead, one time. (Dead from illness; I never heard of one being hit by a car - I think they're too smart for that.) A few other people I know were luckier, and had sightings, all of them too brief to photograph.

I'm skeptical about British big cats, but think it's plausible that (if they exist) they could remain all-but-invisible, and agree that corroboration would be likeliest by spoor or DNA, not by sight.

Edit to add: My totally amateur guess is that they wouldn't be cougars, because they scream, and I've never seen anyone reporting hearing that in the UK; and they're not likely to be leopards, because they hang out in trees, and are relatively easy to spot when they do. I'd say jaguars, which do neither, and occasionally come in a black variant. I'm still skeptical, but that it is remotely plausible - magnitudes more plausible than Bigfoot! - makes it an intriguing story.


> I never heard of one being hit by a car - I think they're too smart for that.

It happens frequently enough [1] [2]. Both of those are in areas where the cats aren’t supposed to exist!

> I'd say jaguars, which do neither, and occasionally come in a black variant.

Yep, the article says that the DNA matched a leopard

[1] https://m.startribune.com/cougar-spotted-in-minneapolis-kill...

[2] https://kanecountyconnects.com/article/MountainLion-KaneCoun...


Who are some indie journalists you've found to be worth paying? I'd like to find some more work that's worth supporting.

Andrew Callaghan of Channel 5 News

He makes good stuff, but do the allegations give you any pause?

All true. There are things teachers can do that help, but nothing is a silver bullet. One thing that I seldom hear discussed is classroom design. Lecture halls (the clue is in the name!) with fixed seating are death to seminar / "active classroom" techniques. As a professor, I would never try those in that layout; as a student, I'd down-vote an awkward attempt, too.

Tuition would have to go way up if they nixed the lecture. That class sponges up probably 6-8 TA sections worth of students 3x a week. So to staff that like they do in the 1x weekly section with your TA (about 20ish students per instructor) you need to hire probably 10x as many instructors, a lot more for some classes even. Money needs to come from somewhere for that.

Indeed. Many things we know about learning and scholarship are rendered academic by the university system.

++Bramleys. One of the things I miss about the UK.

Braeburn is probably the closest to Bramley that's easy to find in the US. Jazz is not a bad cooking apple either, but it's quite a bit sweeter than a Bramley. Neither one gets that distinctive Bramley texture when cooked though.

For a cooking apple, the texture is everything! McIntosh and Northern Spy are heritage breeds sold in the US that have good texture, though not so good as a Bramley. They can be hard to find, though, and usually expensive, whereas Bramleys in the UK are standard supermarket apples, available everywhere. I don't think I've ever seen a Bramley in the US; if I had room, I'd plant a tree.

Aye. And, as the sibling post points out, demonstrating that your benchmarking project qualifies for a Research Exemption could devolve into a lawyer-up situation.

Oh, thank you! I just turned all of those off, and am looking forward to fewer emails and push notifications.


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