Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | eightysix_four's commentslogin

Because ~80% of iOS devices are >9 and spending development time on outdated OSs is a waste for startups.


Correct me if I am wrong, but from what I have read of Churchill's thoughts on the matter (only his biography), he believed that Europe should be united but that the UK wasn't to be a part of it. Did I miss something?


It's unclear. I'm not sure if he said something explicit either way. In his speech proposing a Council of Europe and a Unite States of Europe, he says that Great Britain and the British Commonwealth of Nations and others should be friends of the new Europe, but when the Council of Europe was first created, and Churchill was actively part of that, the UK became part too.

He also at one point proposed outright union between the UK and France.

The important thing to consider, with respect to his United States of Europe speech though, is that when Churchill spoke of this, the UK still had an empire - it was a super-state, though one in decline, and the Commonwealth still meant something more than a loose association. He was speaking from a position where the UK was already "spoken for" so to speak.

Yet over the years afterwards he was one of the driving forces of European integration, including for the UK, but of course he did not see how far it was going.


They say they test across hardware in the article - the Surface Book is the only one they pictured because it's an MS blog and an opportunity to advertise MS hardware.

Besides, I'm pretty sure lowering the number of frames in an animation (among the other fixes/features they mention) is going to pretty much universally lower power requirements.


Fresh air systems are what you are looking for. They purify and bring in outside air (be warned, they lower HVAC efficiency), a lot of them with a high enough CFM to pressurize your house to, exhausting all of the air inside outward so that the leaky seals aren't an issue.


The problem is that these don't fit into most Chinese apartment rentals. Landlords could make some big bank by installing an HVAC, but they are missing even in new buildings where 90sqm apartments are going for more than a million bucks.


Yep. My little apartment (400m²) in a low-rise in Canada, built just five years ago, has no in-unit ventilation whatsoever. If I want a cross-breeze (and I always want a cross-breeze), I have to open the outside windows and the door to the hallway, and let a ton of dust and pollen flow into the unit from outside. I have no idea who thought building an apartment building today like this made sense, but it seems to be a common perspective.


400 sqm is a "little" apartment? Sheesh, first-world problems :)


> I'm sure it's possible to serve adverts on a HTTPS page

Yes, you can, but you lose a tremendous amount of ad revenue and a number of ad providers still don't support HTTPS.


Is this becuase all the third party assets and scripts would need to be HTTPS as well? If they weren't then you get that browser warning about mixed content?



I deal with the three "major" networks like so:

Facebook - Accomplishments/events I want shared out to a broad network. Highly "filtered" view of my life (and my friend's lives).

Twitter - Less content but less filter, more off the cuff thoughts or broadcasting something I find interesting to a broad network of followers.

Snapchat - High content, no filter. Snapchat photos can be "bad", things in them can be mildly inappropriate, and the broadcast distance is relatively small.

If you don't personally see the value of a low/no filter network with your friends, then it probably isn't for you.


This explanation makes the most sense to me. I've moved away from friends in the past few years, and we use a combination of methods to keep in touch, but however you do it, it seems like they just get farther away because some things just aren't worth an email or a Facebook message.

Snapchat (if they used it) would be a good way to stay casually in touch with them.


The are two different models for judging someone's actions. Intent and outcome. OP is judging that his intent is bad even if the outcome is good - sometimes that is important to remember.


Did you watch what Allo does? In its normal mode it couldn't possibly function with end-to-end encryption. They also have encryption to and from the server in the middle when you aren't in that mode.


Incognito is a useful feature. E2E encryption is a useful feature.

There's no reason to only allow those two features to be used together. You could have them both turned off by default, and have three modes, one which turns on E2E and one which turns on incognito.

Also, the incognito decision should be made by each side independently. Just because I want to delete my traces doesn't mean my partner does.


> There's no reason to only allow those two features to be used together.

UX simplicity is, in fact, a reason.


Then have the default incognito be as described, with an option in settings to separate the two features.


I don't think you've thought this through.

If one side enabled this "use E2E encryption for everything" feature, then the other side would presumably no longer have access to any of the smart assistant features. And it would not be obvious why.

Additionally, it would be hard to explain why you'd ever want to enable such a feature which means nobody would do it. I suspect you want default E2E encryption for political reasons. Such things don't work unless it's on by default.


>If one side enabled this "use E2E encryption for everything" feature

That's not what I'm suggesting. I want E2E to be separate from the "delete chats when I'm finished" feature.

Wanting an E2E chat that stays on my device when I'm done should be fine.

I'm fine with having E2E require a separate mode, but that shouldn't be bundled with the incognito feature of not remembering history.


I see. In that case, yes it'd make sense to have such a feature, probably implemented as an archive button in the incognito window (with a warning that archiving such a chat makes it non-private).


Are you assuming that all storage ends up on Google's servers (because that's what hangouts does, maybe)?

Why can't it store E2E chats locally and never upload to google, or even encrypt with a passphrase like Chrome sync does?


Congrats, you have dug it down to the core. Google just doesn't need chats that it can't mine for useful data.


Then why build E2E at all?


To stay competitive (or perceived so).


So you're suggesting Google crippled the feature so it doesn't get used? This seems unlikely.


For Google privacy is a problem, since they want as much data they can get. So they've put in "incognito" so it sounds modern enough what competitors have with E2E, but they'll try and make it inconvenient and not default as much as they can.

Of course they won't be open about this, because they're making the world a better place <insertcuteemojihere>


Wanting an E2E chat that stays on my device when I'm done should be fine.

Only if all other participants in that chat are fine with it. So you'd end up with an implementation that only allows saving to disk if all parties allow saving. That's a lot more complexity than simply a separate checkbox.

I still agree with you, there is value in allowing the features to be controlled separately.


Why? I could always screenshot it, there's never a guarantee when you send information that it won't be retained by others with access. Letting me keep it without screenshotting is just a local convenience feature.


Sure, you could screenshot it. You can make a screencast too. But that would be your choice and your effort, not the tool's. There is a difference between a conversation partner that spends effort to violate the (possibly implicit) rules for that conversation, and a conversational tool that encourages subversion without effort.

In other words, it would be bad for Whisper to allow saving confidential conversations for two reasons:

- the user chooses to not save the conversation, but can't be sure if other partners save it regardless

- the user chooses to save the conversation, but can't be sure if the tool will really do so because of other partners' choices

Either of the options above will lead to more end-user questions (and necessary UI to prevent those) than simply combining E2E and persistence in one option.


I think this is a terminology issue - from what's been said elsewhere the only two differences in incognito mode is that it is E2E and doesn't show messages on your lockscreen.

It's not ephemeral messaging like Snapchat or something, although they are discussing it as a future feature.


I followed the arstechnica liveblog. http://live.arstechnica.com/google-io-2016-keynote/#post-885...

>Incognito also offers message expiration. When you close incognito mode, your message is gone forever.

I assumed that was accurate. Did they misrepresent it somehow?


Possibly - the two sites I've seen with "hands-ons" do not mention this anywhere.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/google-takes-on-apple-facebook-w... (https://archive.is/ELitC for paywall)

>All chats will be encrypted, but a special incognito mode will have an end-to-end encryption, and expiring chats that are permanently deleted once you leave them.


I don't mind the two being used together. I've been using OTR in Gtalk/Hangouts for a long time, too (yes, I know Google actually keeps those messages anyway).

However, I would like an option to make the Incognito mode the default (always-on), just like Firefox can make Private Mode the default.

If Google wants people to believe it cares about their privacy (which is probably the reason they're even doing this in the first place), then it should not just offer the feature to them in an obscure way, but it should make it easy for them to use it if that's what they want.


> If Google wants people to believe it cares about their privacy

They don't, it's just more easibly marketable this way since it's a checkmark on someones Powerpoint slide.

> but it should make it easy for them to use it if that's what they want.

Google doesn't cater to users, since they aren't customers (services are free), but advertisers are.


I think it could if the AI was done locally, but don't expect Google to do that anytime soon, even if it becomes technically feasible and cheap to do. Didn't Apple already employ some client-side AI for photos and gave the reason that this is for privacy? I don't recall what the feature was exactly though.

As a sign of good faith, Google could also stop data-mining Hangouts now, since they have Allo for that, and make Hangouts end-to-end encrypted by default.


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: